USAir's last, final, latest, offer (sign it or liquidate) is out

[jobear]

DirkkDiggler,

Not that I'm God's gift to aviation or anything but how many of us out there have found ourselves sitting in the cockpit next to someone wondering "how the he** did he get this far"?

Everyone I fly with asks that question. I wonder why?

Jobear

 

[miles otoole]

DirkkDiggler,


For the most part you are correct but I prefer to have someone at the controls who is capable of doing more than just meeting the minimum stardard.

Not that I'm God's gift to aviation or anything but how many of us out there have found ourselves sitting in the cockpit next to someone wondering "how the he** did he get this far"?

You must have never flown for ANY regional then. Are you sure you weren't looking in the mirror?

 

[jetstream]

You must have never flown for ANY regional then. Are you sure you weren't looking in the mirror?

Oh well, the intelligent dialog was fun while it lasted.

 

[strega7]

For the most part you are correct but I prefer to have someone at the controls who is capable of doing more than just meeting the minimum stardard.

You know what they call the person who graduates with the lowest GPA and barely made it through medical school?

Doctor.

That is now us.

 

[Redeyes]

"fuel burn-off" procedure to accomodate jumpseaters eliminated

What exactly does this procedure involve??

 

[MW44]

I'm taking a guess here but I think that policy is for times when a plane is planned to be at gross and a jumpseater shows up at the last minute. They still accomodate him/her assuming that an extra couple hundred pounds of fuel will be used before takeoff. Don't qoute me on that though.

 

[Justino]

O no

Ok,

So when, if it does, will US Air go under? Who will pick up the routes? I am newbie and I am trying to understand this industry. So in a nut shell, everyone at US Air must take pay cuts and work more for less? Ouch.

I take it this is a serious bench mark for the rest of the airlines to follow which will result in entire industry lowering the buck.

Thoughts?

 

[CRJDog]

Ok,

So when, if it does, will US Air go under? Who will pick up the routes? I am newbie and I am trying to understand this industry. So in a nut shell, everyone at US Air must take pay cuts and work more for less? Ouch.

I take it this is a serious bench mark for the rest of the airlines to follow which will result in entire industry lowering the buck.

Thoughts?

I think you should fly for recreational purposes and not fly for a living unless you have alot of cash sitting around. Get out while you still can!!!

It's too late for me.

To answer you question about the routes. They would probably be fair game to everyone else like vultures on a dead carcass.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Justino,

Don't listen to anyone who tells you to get out of this business. That is their opinion and I can only suggest to them that perhaps they should quit if they hate it so much. By all means, quit if that is what YOU want to do. However, there are still many pilots who love the job despite all the politics. It is actually possible to distance yourself from all the politics if you choose to do so. I jumpseated on a United 767 a few weeks ago, and the first officer was one of the most positive and upbeat guys I've ever flown with. Despite all the pay cuts, etc. he told me he still loves the job and I thought it was great to hear someone with such a postive attitude. He was like a kid with a new toy. Even though he had flown the aircraft for 5 or 6 years, he was like an excited 10 year old at show and tell showing me all the cool things he liked about the 767. It's kind of refreshing to meet people like that every now and then.

 

[Justino]

Thanks Dirk

I agree! I can't wait to fly for an airline.
I am prepared to work a lot of overtime too get more money, at least I think thats how i could get more money right?

Best
Justino

 

[Bako Cap]

Justino,

As I sit here typing at 2AM with my very awake baby in my lap, I can assure you that being prepared to do overtime as a newbe to make more money doesn't cut it if you want a happy family down the road. I don't have time to work overtime.

Think about it.

 

[WSurf]

CRJDog is right! Use that money that you where gonna spend on educating yourself in a different field. This business is at its lowest point ever, It's cut-throat, back stabbing, and its a race to the bottom on pay rates. It's to the point that its not even a profession anymore, companies treat you like crap. You'll probably never make more than 60k-70k, if you lucky.

Go be a lawyer, Doctor, or anything else. Then buy you a nice shiney C-182 and go fly for fun. You will have a more enjoyable life and family.

 

[Justino]

Well its to late! I have all my licenses and have flown 135 etc... I have the same reasons to fly as you guys did when you first started. I think.

If you can make it, as hard as it is, then I can do it too. I just can't stand working a desk job. I have opportunities to work with the FBI now, but as an Intel analyst. Same with DIA and other gov agencies since I am in grad school for National Security stuff. I was in DC and worked long hours behind a desk doing interesting stuff, but it is not flying. Matter of fact my office was across the street from KDCA-- now that sucked! I have a passion to fly not write Intel reports! I hope you guys and gals understand this. It is a must!



Thank you though for your thoughtful insights and feelings. Good luck with the baby!



Thanks



Justino