USAF diverting funds for luxury accomodations for Generals/VIPs.

[Be 23]

. . . if you have access.

Not any more. I spend my day going real slow down the aisle of the commissary, the wrong way. Except for when I block the entire aisle with my cart while I figure out the lowest cost per ounce of every brand and size of peanut butter on the shelf. I'm working on my long winded stories, "Back when I was in, earlier this year, we used to do things much better . . . ."

Back to the point at hand. The same congressional staffs that whine about the pods will whine about the inadequate accommodations on the C-17's that don't have them. And since Secretary Brown got smeared over Croatia, the DV flights have had to follow all of the rules, all of the time, including requirements for defensive systems.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

Sure they can hack into flying time at upt (after my departure thankfully) be totally broke and now they want this. Ya... glad I'm in the guard. Maybe I should walk down the road a few miles and ask them who's footing the bill.

 

[PreContact]

What's a few pods compare to the entire 89th Wing at Andrews? I don't really think the pods are for generals, they're for congressional delegations on trips to the AOR. The generals are travelling the AOR on C-21s and C-12s.

Not necessarily. We fly many generals in the Winnebago all over the world in the KC-10. The Air Force has way too much fluff. They're losing focus. I'm glad this program was exposed for what it is...a waste!

 

[Be 23]

A dedicated sortie in a KC-10 to haul a general? That's criminal fraud.

OK, they should be on C-12's and C-21's. The reason for using a real airlifter would be defensive systems, which last I knew didn't include the KC-10. The other work around is to use a C-12 or small jet with 'Army' or 'Marines' on the side so it doesn't need flares and chaff.

The civilians have a whole industry built around hauling these guys. When tactical assets are diverted, it becomes a waste.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Hey, but at least we took the parachutes off our KC-135's so we can save some gas while flying over Iraq and Afganistan... that should help foot the bill. Rumor has it the bunks are next - augmented crews don't need rest anyway... service before self...

Whats the number for Fraud, waste and abuse again?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Whats the number for Fraud, waste and abuse again?

1-800-Jon-Mcain



oops...did I say that out loud?

 

[JFReservist]

Oh HELL!NO

Hey, but at least we took the parachutes off our KC-135's so we can save some gas while flying over Iraq and Afganistan... that should help foot the bill. Rumor has it the bunks are next - augmented crews don't need rest anyway... service before self...

Whats the number for Fraud, waste and abuse again?

They are not taking the only comfort (and I say that loosely) I have left while doing tps!

 

[T3700]

These capsules are basically an Airstream trailer on a pallet. They are nice inside, but nothing like the interior of an 89th VIP aircraft. They are really intended to provide secure communication ability to 4 Stars when they need to travel on transport aircraft. These would be much less expensive than maintaining a fleet of BBJs for these guys to travel around in. Congressmen would probably not use these, hence they will grandstand about wasteful spending while they get on their 89th Gulfstream to travel

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

The AF is so broken right now I don't know who can fix it. They can't do anything right. Just casual observation from outside... It's ok being a second class ANG citizen.

 

[Hagar17]

Since I'm a Guard dude, I'm tempted to walk across the street to ACC HQ and ask someone "WTFO??" Although this whole thing makes me throw up in my mouth a little, I don't think my WG/CC would appreciate me making waves at ACC.

The active duty USAF has become soft. Very soft. We have serious issues. Hopefully the new guy can fix some o' this sh*t.

Good thing the ANG never wastes any taxpayer dollars...........