USA 3000 fold too?

[Thedude]

You mean Transmeridan. They where owned by Pegasus Aircraft Leasing. If I remember correctly, they decided to start using some of the aircraft sitting around that weren't currently on a lease. I know there are at least 2 TMI guys here, they can give a better explanation.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Did you see Angus??

Angus has some mental issues obviously he's a very seriously messed up dumbazz! He called me that in a PM he sent me...oh well.

 

[bigboeings]

Maybe a certain portion of the charter business is in a downturn, but other segments are way up. For instance,long haul charters, subservices, etc.. We constantly are turning down charters because we dont have enough planes.

 

[Wino]

By looking at your logo (North American) what you say may be true, but I suspect it has a lot more to do with you poaching from within your parent company than real outside business (otherwise ATA would not have shut down)

But yes, there is a lot of long haul at the moment. A police action (Iraq and afghanistan) will do that for you. When those two conflicts wind down, so will a lot of the long haul flying.


Cheers
Wino

 

[NEDude]

While not to disagree with Wino, there are a couple of other issues missed.

First, during the bankruptcy years of 2002-2006, United and USAirways gave major discounts to Apple Vacations in order to secure income. Remember they also sold seats to the general public at super cheap rates during this time as well. Word is those super discounts are now disappearing

The second factor is the "bargaining chip" factor. By having their own airline, Apple is able to use that as a bargaining chip when negotiating ticket prices with other airlines. I don't know for sure, but word around the company is that in that respect alone USA 3000 has been financially beneficial to the Apple group even if the airline doesn't make a profit operationally.

Again this isn't to disagree with Wino, simply pointing out a couple of other factors.