US Regional pilots are suckers?

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I ROCK you talk my talk. I agree and I have seen them molest moose before. I agree they have given us hockey which we can all do without. Celene Dion? She is a Vegas whore now. Michael J Fox. His acting sure went down the tubes he can't even stay still on camera anymore. I think that about covers all that country is good for.

Mike Myers...
Peter Jennings..
Jim Carey....


Looks like the American culture is working well.. If one doesn't like then they must hate....

Just like us...Canada has a lot of good and bad... Now Timmies is all good...

 

[SennaP1]

Jazz is a division of Air Canada not a wholly owned regional. They are considered mainline pilots flying regional sized stuff.

If we could turn back time...Is that a Celine Dion song too?

 

[Hootie9750]

those who complained would be crucified as socialist. And I voted for Bush...twice. Dumbest thing I ever did.

Ditto on that!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You forgot to count the years that Bush Sr. was the VP. But anyways, the Clintons lived off Reagonomics and took all the credit for it. They allowed bin Laden to bomb US Embassies, the USS Cole and did nothing about it. Dubya may not be the best, and he may have altered our views to carry out a personal vendetta, but at least someone finally had the balls to do something.

XPOO you are a real Gem... Clinton inherited a free ride from Senior and mucked it all up for Junior....

Simple political analysis, whether it is a highly polarized or not is incredibly refreshing... O'Rielly and Rush are your grasshoppers. Colbert is your junior... Stewart is inconsequential....

 

[insomniac99]

Politics aside, the reason pilot pay sucks is because pilots are willing to work for substandard wages.

 

[insomniac99]

Not all US regional pilots work for peanuts. We're all underpaid, but some exchange lower hourly rates hoping for an upgrade faster than 8 years.

you guys need to live in the now

 

[CMI]

Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Not all US regional pilots work for peanuts. We're all underpaid, but some exchange lower hourly rates hoping for an upgrade faster than 8 years.

Just a little underpaid?
Love living in that crash pad with 6 dudes?
Lower rate for upgrade? F that!
The now now is now, when is the future? Soon.

Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths

1 Logging workers 92.4 85
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 109
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 38
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 31
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 35
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 307
7 Roofers 34.9 94
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 36
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 905
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 67

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

 

[BoilerUP]

BoilerUp... your previous avatar was better..... btw.. Kiefer is born Canadian.....

I agree on the avatar...but killing somebody by biting out their friggin' jugular vain was pretty spectacular and worthy of a temporary change.

 

[ozpilot]

Mike Myers...
Peter Jennings..
Jim Carey....

Lets not forget Pamela Anderson

 

[I ROCK]

Lets forget Pamela Anderson she is dirty wool. SHe has hepatitis

 

[Fly4PayNoMore]

If you think that the union/labor friendly environment of Europe is great, think again. Economies like Germany and France have double digit unemployment numbers and the inflation rates are 15% +. You may have a higher wage, but your buying power is eroded every single day. Meanwhile, our average wages ARE up in the time that Bush has been in office, unemployment numbers are at a statistical zero, and inflation is at one of the lowest levels EVER (and it's still below the rate of wage growth)!!

Stop listening to the news, the economy isn't in shambles because auto companies are making layoffs. The unions want higher wages, but in the case of the auto industry, for example, American companies cannot compete; on cost OR quality. What does the American consumer do...they buy Japanese autos, since they can get better quality with a better value for their dollar. Have you ever wondered why service at airline ticket counters sucks? A few years ago, I was flying out of Phoenix on a paid ticket. There were 5 flights leaving, 2 to MSP, 2 to DTW, and 1 to MEM, all in a short time period, due to a weather delay and a maintenance delay. The ticketing counter was a mob scene and two of the ticketing agents walked away from their computers...one looked at his watch and said, "I'm on break." They sat in the doorway, in full view of the mob of passengers for 5 flights, chatting! The only way they got away with that was due to the union mentality, "It's not my job right now, I'm on break." So, considering this, and other factors, why are airlines having trouble making money?

A lot of people put up a lot of money, to take a chance on a business. Some make a lot of money as a result, but a lot of people fail miserably. Historically, pilots have made good money...don't tell me that $100,000+ per year isn't a lot, when you get to the majors. I have known a lot of airline pilots with a ton of cash in the bank. If things have always been so bad, it blows my mind that a pilot group hasn't put some of their own money into a venture, and run an airline on their own with additional outside investment. It CAN be done.

All right, I'm rambling...

 

[BUDDHA145]

US Regional pilots are suckers?

Why do Air Canada Jazz pilots make more money than US regional pilots?
Why is first year pay for an FO 35K at Jazz?
Why do US regional pilots work for peanuts?
Why don’t all regional pilots in the US “call in sick” all on the same day?
Regional pilots in the US need to fight for better pay

Air Canada Jazz Pay

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/canadian/air_canada_jazz.html

So ignorants little kids like you, can fly important buisness, celebrities, and the rich when ever they whant and please dont forget to pick their luggage from their car and put it in the aircraft...thank god I am under pay, and I can barely spell and write, as long I am not working with over paid
teenagers like you...

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

They sat in the doorway, in full view of the mob of passengers for 5 flights, chatting! The only way they got away with that was due to the union mentality, "It's not my job right now, I'm on break." So, considering this, and other factors, why are airlines having trouble making money?

A lot of people put up a lot of money, to take a chance on a business. Some make a lot of money as a result, but a lot of people fail miserably. Historically, pilots have made good money...don't tell me that $100,000+ per year isn't a lot, when you get to the majors. I have known a lot of airline pilots with a ton of cash in the bank. If things have always been so bad, it blows my mind that a pilot group hasn't put some of their own money into a venture, and run an airline on their own with additional outside investment. It CAN be done.

All right, I'm rambling...

Not sure where you get your data from. Maybe unionfacts.com (they recently switched from .org to .com? Maybe to don't meet the ".org" status... cause it is just a front with no real non profit value)

I gotta a tell you.... show me a well run company and it doesn't matter if there are unions or not. How about SWA. More unionized than most airlines and thier employees would never take a break when the customers where waiting...

How about this: When a CEO carves himself out a sweet pay package that has nothing.....NOTHING.. to do with performance... why sould an employee bust his tail when he just took paycuts.... only to see those paycuts go to the CEO's wallet!

QUIT blaming unions for poor Corporate Leadership!

What do expect unions to do at Ford and GM and the airlines? Make all the sacrifice all while watching the CEO get FAT off thier efforts all while destroying the company? The solution?

FIX the problem. The biz model is broken! Why is it the Japs can build better cars.. with UNIONIZED AMERICAN labor in the US and the Big Three can't? Doesn't sound like a union problem....

 

[CMI]

BUDDHA145 WTF? Are you drunk?

Why does Air Canada fly EMB 175's and 190's, but Air Canada Jazz does not?
Maybe they are not prostituting themselves like the US Regional Pilots are.
And don’t tell me that a company cannot pay their pilots more. Their would be no airline industry without pilots! Seems to me US regional pilots have a bad case of Coprophagia!

 

[Jack Mahogoff]

Canada isn't a real country anyway...

Also, aren't they the ones responsible for Bryan Adams?!

Anyone?