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General Lee said:
Dude, I make twice what you do flying the same type planes (although larger 767s) across the Atlantic. You and your group suck.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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Dude really

Whenever a SWA guy would say that you would make a comment, that I felt deserving.

Now you go and say that.

Really? I mean Really ?
 
scoreboardII said:
The preceding was brought to you by "My dick is bigger than yours", on sale now at all fine emporiums.
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It's probably true also. Anyway, the whole USAir East group have only brought down this profession by disregarding something they signed up for in the first place. They deserve 1/2 the pay, and they deserve to be miserable.

It goes to show that merging airline lists can either be painful and contentious (US and SW/AT), or one that includes integrity and follows the direction of outside parties (arbitrators) with no conflict of interest. Both of you guy took the wrong direction, and that may haunt you for years. Oh well... I'm really surprised about SWA's decision, after watching a successful SLI (DL/NWA) and a not successful one (AWA/US). Bad move...


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
slaquer5 said:
Dude really

Whenever a SWA guy would say that you would make a comment, that I felt deserving.

Now you go and say that.

Really? I mean Really ?
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Really? Not the same planes, and US had the chance to get this done 5 years ago, but held out because of what again?? That's the point, those Easties have ruined it for themselves after signing on the bottom line to abide by the award. They had the chance for more pay, and they let it slide.

And the Majors will likely pass you by as GK asks for givebacks after "helping" you out on your SLI. The US guys had their chance to recapture pay, but the Easties threw that away. You know the difference, or maybe you don't..... SWA got great pay after the BKs of the Majors, but it has increased since then, all except US because of their ridiculous views.

Good try!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
SAABaroowski said:
You might want to spend some of that money, or pick up another hobby Other than Flight Info
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Nah, I enjoy this too much. The USAir Easties absolutely have brought this upon themselves, and they deserve squat.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
It's probably true also. Anyway, the whole USAir East group have only brought down this profession by disregarding something they signed up for in the first place. They deserve 1/2 the pay, and they deserve to be miserable.

It goes to show that merging airline lists can either be painful and contentious (US and SW/AT), or one that includes integrity and follows the direction of outside parties (arbitrators) with no conflict of interest. Both of you guy took the wrong direction, and that may haunt you for years. Oh well... I'm really surprised about SWA's decision, after watching a successful SLI (DL/NWA) and a not successful one (AWA/US). Bad move...


Bye Bye---General Lee
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Before you put the "whole" East pilot group to the fire, stop to think there are many East pilots with no dog in this fight. We have a lot of new guys, including myself, whom are ecstatic to be at a major, understand the issues, and can't wait for the day we can all move on.
 
General Lee said:
Nah, I enjoy this too much. The USAir Easties absolutely have brought this upon themselves, and they deserve squat.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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If it weren't for the APA they would only get squat. Squat is the only thing USAPA has produced, that is uncontested. Oh, that and an injunction.
 
buxflyr said:
Before you put the "whole" East pilot group to the fire, stop to think there are many East pilots with no dog in this fight. We have a lot of new guys, including myself, whom are ecstatic to be at a major, understand the issues, and can't wait for the day we can all move on.
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Do you have a vote? Are the folks currently in power representing how you feel? Are you prepared to replace them with people who do?
 
No neutral third parties here at LCC, Hatfields or McCoys, pick a side and speak up!!! This self hostage taking talk is BS, you control your future, not some 1989 Hire sad sack AAA pilot crying about his/her bad choices...
 
The irony of this whole thing is that it was Parker who pushed the whole consolidation wave in the first place. Yet now he's getting cut off due to his own underhanded business tactics (undercutting the competition with gimmicks like Advantage Fares and the the like).

I wonder whether Horton is playing the DOJ in this whole deal to unravel the merger.

Talk about getting owned. Parker getting clobbered by his own cheap-suit ways.
 
The Diane Rehm Show had a program about the merger a few days ago.

The U.S. Justice Department took most everyone by surprise yesterday. Along with six states and the District of Columbia, it sued to block the merger of American Airlines and US Airways. The two airlines were just days away from a bankruptcy court hearing which they hoped would confirm their exit plan. The carriers claim their consolidation would benefit consumers by creating a new airline that could compete with rivals that have already merged. But critics and Justice officials say the transaction would result in higher fares, higher fees and fewer choices. Diane and her guests discuss the economic impact of airline mergers.

Guests

Charles Leocha director of Consumer Travel Alliance.
George Hamlin president of Hamlin Transportation Consulting.
Holly Hegeman founder and CEO of PlaneBusiness.com.
Ben Mutzabaugh editor of USA Today's "Today in the Sky" blog.
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http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2013-08-14/economic-impact-airline-mergers
 
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General Lee said:
It's probably true also. Anyway, the whole USAir East group have only brought down this profession by disregarding something they signed up for in the first place. They deserve 1/2 the pay, and they deserve to be miserable.

It goes to show that merging airline lists can either be painful and contentious (US and SW/AT), or one that includes integrity and follows the direction of outside parties (arbitrators) with no conflict of interest. Both of you guy took the wrong direction, and that may haunt you for years. Oh well... I'm really surprised about SWA's decision, after watching a successful SLI (DL/NWA) and a not successful one (AWA/US). Bad move...


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General, You have a knack for always homing on the negative. But US Airways pay rates are really not that bad if you consider how proportional they are to their associated work rules and down to earth culture. For example, the work rules at US Air allow east line holders to easily drop flying. It is also easy to fly 25-30 hours or less a month on short call reserve. I know a pilot who flew 30 hours in the last 60 days at US Airways and works full time from home to make double his airline salary—winner.

There is more to the world than money and more to US Airways contract than just pay rates.

I can imagine that it is very easy for you to speak poorly of US Airways because of how they hurt your profession after Doug Parker's hostile takeover attempt succeeded in putting 2 billion dollars worth of debt on your the merged DAL/NWA balance sheet.


whymeworry? said:
The irony of this whole thing is that it was Parker who pushed the whole consolidation wave in the first place. Yet now he's getting cut off due to his own underhanded business tactics (undercutting the competition with gimmicks like Advantage Fares and the the like).

I wonder whether Horton is playing the DOJ in this whole deal to unravel the merger.

Talk about getting owned. Parker getting clobbered by his own cheap-suit ways.
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Yes very ironic...

Maybe Horton and the AA board are still motivated to acquire US outside of BK—who knows.
 
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