US Airways to start accepting apps.

[Crzipilot]

Nope, Hired east stay east until there is a merged contract and seniority list. And BTW 190 is PHL base only...

 

[zymotic]

Yeah speaking of that, Get Back To Work You Slacker ; )

I tried but they bought another 4 day starting tomorrow!

 

[Otto77]

What people need to understand is the 190 is the airplane you want to start on. Through a strange quirk you will most likely make more money the first year than you would on the 737 or bus. Also, if things start moving fast you will quickly get off reserve. I've stayed on the airplane a bit longer than some people my seniority since I commute and this month, for example, I work 12 days. Also seem to get a very high amount of trips bought (had three or four already this month).

Interesting..I thought the pay capped out at $55 for an F/O? How does the "quirk" work?

I threw in my app..curious to see how soon the calls go out

 

[zymotic]

Interesting..I thought the pay capped out at $55 for an F/O? How does the "quirk" work?

I threw in my app..curious to see how soon the calls go out

It's a first year only quirk. Hourly pay on the 737 and 320 is very low (like $29 per hour) but there is a $3000 per month minimum. Pay on the 190 is about $41 per hour so if you work more than 73 or so hours per month you make more than you would on the other airplanes.

 

[Mr Hat]

I have a very hard time believing that only 400 people applied. Anyone got a confirmation on that or a source? They're only hiring what 52 people anyway. I applied and I hope they call.

 

[ASA_DFW]

The number is what the HR Recruiter told me.

 

[j41]

Anyone when US Airways will start calling people for interview?

 

[5w5flyer]

What people need to understand is the 190 is the airplane you want to start on. Through a strange quirk you will most likely make more money the first year than you would on the 737 or bus. Also, if things start moving fast you will quickly get off reserve. I've stayed on the airplane a bit longer than some people my seniority since I commute and this month, for example, I work 12 days. Also seem to get a very high amount of trips bought (had three or four already this month).

People on first year pay will most likely be on reserve and not fly much though. My first year on the 190 I cleared $35k and some change. I would have actually made a few hundred more flying a Group II aircraft. The difference is so little that people should make any choice that they have based on where they want to be based. On second year pay that all changes and Group II aircraft pay is much better. I agree with you though that newhires will become line holders quickly on the 190.

On a side note, how are you able to only work 12 days? Even with SAP I'm working 15 days this month.

 

[zymotic]

People on first year pay will most likely be on reserve and not fly much though. My first year on the 190 I cleared $35k and some change. I would have actually made a few hundred more flying a Group II aircraft. The difference is so little that people should make any choice that they have based on where they want to be based. On second year pay that all changes and Group II aircraft pay is much better. I agree with you though that newhires will become line holders quickly on the 190.

On a side note, how are you able to only work 12 days? Even with SAP I'm working 15 days this month.

I actually didn't SAP for May since the line was only 3 four day trips.

First year pay on group 2 is the greater of $24.99 per hour or $3000 per month. On the 190 it is the greater of $41.22 per hour or $3000 per month. How could you have made more on group II? You have to get 120 hours in a group II in order to break the 3K per month. However, once you earn more than 72 hours you break the 3K on the 190.

 

[Tweaker]

If it means anything, this is what the app says online...

Pilot - First Officer EMB190 116461 Philadelphia, PA, US Flight Operations Full-Time 4/29/11 Until filled​

It does not.

 

[Dart]

Does the app have a link for Rec letters?? Looking for it with no luck.

 

[SEVEN]

Hmmmmm...let's see, commute to PHL, sit reserve on a regional jet, and finally break $50 buck and hour at year 5....don't think so. Doesn't sound like a legacy carrier to me. But maybe that 5 year upgrade could happen????

 

[weasel_lips]

Hmmmmm...let's see, commute to PHL, sit reserve on a regional jet, and finally break $50 buck and hour at year 5....don't think so. Doesn't sound like a legacy carrier to me. But maybe that 5 year upgrade could happen????

You probably wont be on reserve long at all on the E190.

5 year upgrade will happen, but you might be on reserve... you should probably pass.

 

[SEVEN]

You probably wont be on reserve long at all on the E190.

5 year upgrade will happen, but you might be on reserve... you should probably pass.

After looking at the big picture, Virgin, Spirit, and JetBlue far outweigh the risk involved vs. USAIR. Maybe in a year things will be different. Far too risky of a move for me right now. But for a regional FO...it is worth the risk. You're right....I will pass. For now.

 

[cbrown1]

What are the competitive mins there, anyone know how many applications they got this week?

 

[SEVEN]

What are the competitive mins there, anyone know how many applications they got this week?

Not as many as Luv.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Not as many as Luv.

Which means you'll prolly have a better chance at Airways while you're waiting on Luv.

 

[Tweaker]

Hmmmmm...let's see, commute to PHL, sit reserve on a regional jet, and finally break $50 buck and hour at year 5....don't think so. Doesn't sound like a legacy carrier to me. But maybe that 5 year upgrade could happen????

less than 1 year on property, been A320 and B737 FO. $57 an hour in 2 months. Your math sucks.

 

[princeton]

It's a tough call. I live near PHL but am just starting regional CA pay (70 - 80.000/yr).

I could deal with a few years at < 50.000 (wife's got a good job) but what if they shrink and furlough? Just worried that a merger or a reduction in flying for USAir might be more likely than it would happen at the regional where I work now.

Might be better to keep building TPIC. No?

 

[belliott]

It's a tough call. I live near PHL but am just starting regional CA pay (70 - 80.000/yr).

I could deal with a few years at < 50.000 (wife's got a good job) but what if they shrink and furlough? Just worried that a merger or a reduction in flying for USAir might be more likely than it would happen at the regional where I work now.

Might be better to keep building TPIC. No?

I am in the same boat... its tempting buuuuuuuut... I will have to think long and hard about accepting a job there if offered one. It would be a good problem to have.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Build the TPIC. Then take your shot.

That being said. In the not to distant Future US Airways will begin retiring one pilot approximately every 30 hours. You will not be on the 190 very long.

 

[Otto77]

Does the app have a link for Rec letters?? Looking for it with no luck.

Was looking for the same thing but no avail. Their app site isn't the most user friendly compared to others. Wonder when calls go out?

 

[zymotic]

It's a tough call. I live near PHL but am just starting regional CA pay (70 - 80.000/yr).

I could deal with a few years at < 50.000 (wife's got a good job) but what if they shrink and furlough? Just worried that a merger or a reduction in flying for USAir might be more likely than it would happen at the regional where I work now.

Might be better to keep building TPIC. No?

Any airline can shrink and furlough and it is always a gamble to start over at the bottom. All the legacy airlines furloughed the last round. US Airways is close to the minimum fleet count per the pilot contract (not that they couldn't chose to violate it). Massive retirements starting very soon so I don't see how they could furlough. It would have to be a dire situation that liquidation was imminent.

As I see it there will eventually be three legacy carriers and US Airways is a ticket to working for one of the big three.

Question you have to ask is do you want to stick around and build turbine PIC if offered a job. You could be giving up lots of seniority.

Disclaimer: I did have many thousands of jet PIC when I got hired so I didn't need to stick around at my regional. I did get furloughed from Airways as well but it was actually a really great experience (Pennsylvania unemployment sure helped).

 

[Citjok]

It's a tough call. I live near PHL but am just starting regional CA pay (70 - 80.000/yr).

I could deal with a few years at < 50.000 (wife's got a good job) but what if they shrink and furlough? Just worried that a merger or a reduction in flying for USAir might be more likely than it would happen at the regional where I work now.

Might be better to keep building TPIC. No?

My experience with regionals tells me is riskier to stay with them in the long run, even if you are a wholly owned. Look at AA eagle now. Me personally would prefer to have my seniority number in at a legacy. But that's just me.

 

[weasel_lips]

It's a tough call. I live near PHL but am just starting regional CA pay (70 - 80.000/yr).

I could deal with a few years at < 50.000 (wife's got a good job) but what if they shrink and furlough? Just worried that a merger or a reduction in flying for USAir might be more likely than it would happen at the regional where I work now.

Might be better to keep building TPIC. No?

Massive retirements coming up. Company is in good financial health + they cant really shrink anymore.

It is just a matter of time before USAIR is merged with someone. You could get on now and move up the list with retirements, then when they merge you will have some built in senority at whatever the new company is.

 

[ackattacker]

Everybody keeps talking about mergers like it's inevitable. It's not. Make your decision based on the current status quo, IMHO. Expect no merger, expect no new contract. Only thing you can really count on is the retirements.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

You think another group is going to want to enter a SLI debacle with USAPA? Why would any group believe that you would honorably enter an agreement to merge list? That merger would be more of a disaster than your first one. Think of all the lawsuits that would arise that would bog down the integration. I think you have made your bed and you will make it or break it on your own.

 

[bri5150]

You think another group is going to want to enter a SLI debacle with USAPA? Why would any group believe that you would honorably enter an agreement to merge list? That merger would be more of a disaster than your first one. Think of all the lawsuits that would arise that would bog down the integration. I think you have made your bed and you will make it or break it on your own.

Yeah, because how easy the pilot groups will merge is all that management looks at when decided whether or not to merge airlines.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Yeah, because how easy the pilot groups will merge is all that management looks at when decided whether or not to merge airlines.

I think they do now!

 

[JetMonkey]

I think they do now!

Dude, I think your brain might be as small as a squirrel on that one. They don't give a rats what happens to the pilot groups or any other group for that matter. It's all about how much they can profit from a merger. Da benjamins homie! It's all about da paper!