US Airways seeks declaratory judgement on pilot seniority issue

[Metrojet]

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
First off, I don't work for US Airways. LOA 93 expired December 31, 2009. The company has chosen to ignore this fact and is still paying LOA 93 wages. My understanding is this is going through the grievance process and the company will probably lose eventually. That will bring the wages back up to near Delta wages. I'm guessing the company wants a new contract before that happens. If the company does lose the LOA 93 arbitration before a new contract is signed, it may have to pay back-wages. It also doesn't help the company's cause that it just showed a record profit second quarter

You couldn't be more wrong.

Guppie - Please elaborate why you think hockeypilots' view is wrong - I say that could be a valid view

Metrojet

 

[get2flyin]

Give us a fair arbitration and we will honor it. We don't submit to corruption and blackmail. Being an ALPA pimp, you probably wouldn't understand

Uh huh. "Fair" meaning USAPA sits on both sides of the table, right? I'm SURE they will "represent" the West pilots. Honor? You guys are a joke.

 

[Ocity]

Give us a fair arbitration and we will honor it. We don't submit to corruption and blackmail. Being an ALPA pimp, you probably wouldn't understand

Bullsh*t. You guys have no "honor". You're pathetic, half-witted, failed, thugs.

ALPA caused you far less problems than USAPA.

 

[TWA Dude]

My understanding is this is going through the grievance process and the company will probably lose eventually.

That is an extremely optimistic view of the issue. Yes, LOA93 had an expiration date yet there was no specific mention of a snapback. Generally speaking, when contracts have snapback provisions the language is explicit. I say this without any emotion or animosity: knowing how arbitrators generally side with management I'd say chances are very high the East will lose.

 

[Draginass]

AA has it's own train wreck to deal with. They don't need another one from US Air.

 

[TWA Dude]

AA has it's own train wreck to deal with.

You're right. Even buying TWA couldn't fix it.

 

[Guppiedriver]

Guppie - Please elaborate why you think hockeypilots' view is wrong - I say that could be a valid view

Metrojet

1. I followed the LOA 93 procedings.....USAPA's position is very weak and they know it.

2. It's just silly to think the company would wait this long to file a complaint for declaratory relief, just to trump the LOA 93 ruling.

3. See post #19, last sentence.

 

[cactusboy53]

Just thinking out loud:

If the arbitration between the company and USAPA (regarding LOA 93) came out in favor of USAPA, AND the company percieved the arbitration as UNFAIR.....would it be OK for the company to do anything it could to void the arbitration???????

 

[Guppiedriver]

Just thinking out loud:

If the arbitration between the company and USAPA (regarding LOA 93) came out in favor of USAPA, AND the company percieved the arbitration as UNFAIR.....would it be OK for the company to do anything it could to void the arbitration???????

Yes, a simple name change and poof, the arbitration is null and void.

 

[beechlive]

I wish I was a lawyer in this mess. I'd be rich.

 

[Deadalus]

Give us a fair arbitration and we will honor it. We don't submit to corruption and blackmail. Being an ALPA pimp, you probably wouldn't understand

HAHHAHAHHAAHHHAAHA! Give you a ruling that YOU want and you'll accept it? Has it ever occured to you that you might be in the wrong? Unbelievable.

 

[Deadalus]

I wish I was a lawyer in this mess. I'd be rich.

No kidding, I'd be making way more money.

 

[Carl S.]

Einstein, Airline contracts do not expire, they become amendable when the term expires(i.e. status quo) and remain in effect. The LOA 93 Hail Mary with"Freeze" used for snap backs is weak, but strange things can happen in arbitrations. Waiting for the USAPA spin from today's filing, word is case will go to Wake when the merits are reviewed.

 

[scoreboardII]

So I guess those promised "synergies" aren't working out to well?

 

[vetrider]

Give us a fair arbitration and we will honor it.

You got a fair arbitration dumbass. I don't recall that stipulation where Nicolau was to send you draft after draft until you approved it.