US Airways raises the offer to 10.2 Billion

[General Lee]

Starting to seem that something may actually happen here, possibly a break up of Delta. Hard to believe. Here's hoping that job losses are very minimal....

Where did you get a break up of Delta? First off, the DOJ would never allow this because of the severe overlap (UA/US had only one hub overlap (IAD/DCA) and it was turned down---we have 3), and if for some reason they did, NWA will step in and DL management will endorse that deal, which will probably have about the same amount of money involved. USAir will be out in the cold, regardless. You need to relax pal.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[737 Pylt]

It doesn't make sense?

No!

Then why is Parker pursuing it?

Because he knows either DL/NWA is in the works or is afraid that the reemerged DL out of BK will kick the snot out of his company!

Why are people talking about it.

Really, what people, are you psychic? Perhaps you should worry more about your precious little airline about to be devoured by Air Tran!

There is a real good chance you'll be eating crow my friend. Sorry, it's life. Like I said before, overlap isn't going to be a factor.

All this intelligence, and yet you can't move out of the trailer park?
You are as clueless as you are predictable. Sorry, as you said, but DL will emerge out of BK, with or without US Airways. Either way, one thing will change, you will be a miserable little boy on the outside looking in!

Parker wants your international routes, some gates, and a presence in ATL.

He can wish in one hand and crap in the other, let's see which one gets filled first!

The rest will be sold off to the highest bidder.

Kind of like what Air Tran will do to your midwest airline hey chuckie??

Life goes on big guy.

So does it for you, unfortunately for the rest of us, you still won't change!
Good luck with your buyout from Air Tran. When the AT guys get done stapling you to the bottom of their list, I'll be the one having the last laugh!!!:laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[spinproof]

This is just way too much fun. GL thinks I'm in Korea while he's do'in his sister. Huh!

Yup.

Yassuh.

We be havn fun now.

Yassuh! Yassuh! Dats right! I knows youse right Missah Spud! Missah Gen-ral likes to keeps his biz'ness 'round family and all! Folks sayes dey all's looks like deys all the same..uh,uh, uhh!

Deys be sittn' on deys poach down dat Peachtree city rock'n and talk'n big and all....Deys all mad causing dis Missah Dug done gone and tried ta buy up old Tara! Uh,Uh Uhh!!!....

 

[PHXFLYR]

Hello? Anyone, anyone can see there is so much overlap it is ridiculous. Just because USAir doesn't fly from ATL or CVG to the same cities, doesn't mean there isn't overlap. You might not see it, then. Obvioulsy the other people in control, the Congress, don't like it, and will squash it if they want (just like they did with US/UA--they leaned on the DOJ and got it squashed)

Parker making those statements to the USAToday was one of the biggest blunders ever. My friends in PHX told me .........


You have friends in PHX???????? Who knew???!!!!??


PHXFLYR

 

[Saabslime]

You know as well as I do that taking capacity out of the system will NOT last long. Southwest and others will fill in the gaps, with lower wages for those people who were put out of work due to the original bad merger. --General Lee

Why did the USAir/AWA merger succeed? Because the Gov't saw there was little overlap and minimum job loss, with no small communities hurt. That is not the case here. Southwest and other low cost carriers will not fill in the gap. It will not happen. --General Lee

Mr. Lee, are you by any chance related to John Kerry? You, like the rest of us don't know jack about how this deal is going to end up.

 

[General Lee]

Mr. Lee, are you by any chance related to John Kerry? You, like the rest of us don't know jack about how this deal is going to end up.

Well, we all can make an educated guess, and I use history and current articles to back up my statements. You may have faith in your boss, but the rest of us want no part of it. His persistance will lead to his downfall, since he is pushing us into a larger merger that will pounce on him later. Look, Grinstein does not want to give up to Parker, and he will do whatever it takes to avoid that. That is fact.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[400ADude]

No!


Because he knows either DL/NWA is in the works or is afraid that the reemerged DL out of BK will kick the snot out of his company!


Really, what people, are you psychic? Perhaps you should worry more about your precious little airline about to be devoured by Air Tran!


All this intelligence, and yet you can't move out of the trailer park?
You are as clueless as you are predictable. Sorry, as you said, but DL will emerge out of BK, with or without US Airways. Either way, one thing will change, you will be a miserable little boy on the outside looking in!


He can wish in one hand and crap in the other, let's see which one gets filled first!

Kind of like what Air Tran will do to your midwest airline hey chuckie??


So does it for you, unfortunately for the rest of us, you still won't change!
Good luck with your buyout from Air Tran. When the AT guys get done stapling you to the bottom of their list, I'll be the one having the last laugh!!!:laugh: :laugh:

737

Getting a little nervous.

 

[Flys4Fun]

www.buildingabetterairline.com

 

[Swaayze]

Where did you get a break up of Delta? First off, the DOJ would never allow this because of the severe overlap (UA/US had only one hub overlap (IAD/DCA) and it was turned down---we have 3), and if for some reason they did, NWA will step in and DL management will endorse that deal, which will probably have about the same amount of money involved. USAir will be out in the cold, regardless. You need to relax pal.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I'm pretty relaxed actually, thanks buddy.

You make my point, the DOJ will probably not allow a standalone LCC purchase of DL, so bits and pieces would have to be spun off to meet anti-trust concerns. They've already discussed the shuttle sell-off and are now acknowledging that some CLT/ATL concerns will probably be addressed as well. With NWA and UAL interested in DAL and certainly not wanting to be left out in the end, do you really not think that a break-up is possible? Just refer again to the UAL-U deal to see how that can work, with AA stepping in to take U's 757 and F100 fleets. BTW, the UAL-U deal was, as others have stated, heavily rumored to be approved until UAL got cold feet in the 11th hour. If you don't call selling off the shuttle and parceling out some things to UAL and NWA a breakup - then I guess you're right.

Like I said, it just seems that it's heading that direction. I think we'd all be happy if it just dies on the vine, but it's more credible now than before I'm afraid (in a relaxed kinda way). Heck, maybe it'll be a complete purchase of DL and a breakup of LCC to satisfy the DOJ, I dunno. Methinks it's you that may need to relax a little.

 

[Green]

Where did you get a break up of Delta? First off, the DOJ would never allow this because of the severe overlap (UA/US had only one hub overlap (IAD/DCA) and it was turned down---we have 3), and if for some reason they did, NWA will step in and DL management will endorse that deal, which will probably have about the same amount of money involved. USAir will be out in the cold, regardless. You need to relax pal.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You realize General Lee that if this deal does go through you will have lost all credibility on this board....This is your personal flightinfo.com hail marry. What will you do with yourself if you have to retire from this board in shame? Better start thinking of a new screen name and set aside 10bucks for a membership....lol....

all in good fun

 

[800Dog]

You realize General Lee that if this deal does go through you will have lost all credibility on this board....This is your personal flightinfo.com hail marry. What will you do with yourself if you have to retire from this board in shame? Better start thinking of a new screen name and set aside 10bucks for a membership....lol....

all in good fun

I don't think the General has ever stated the deal will not go through. He believes it will not and tries to back up his beliefs with articles, quotes and his own opinion. At least he promotes healthy debate.

 

[General Lee]

I'm pretty relaxed actually, thanks buddy.

You make my point, the DOJ will probably not allow a standalone LCC purchase of DL, so bits and pieces would have to be spun off to meet anti-trust concerns. They've already discussed the shuttle sell-off and are now acknowledging that some CLT/ATL concerns will probably be addressed as well. With NWA and UAL interested in DAL and certainly not wanting to be left out in the end, do you really not think that a break-up is possible? Just refer again to the UAL-U deal to see how that can work, with AA stepping in to take U's 757 and F100 fleets. BTW, the UAL-U deal was, as others have stated, heavily rumored to be approved until UAL got cold feet in the 11th hour. If you don't call selling off the shuttle and parceling out some things to UAL and NWA a breakup - then I guess you're right.

Like I said, it just seems that it's heading that direction. I think we'd all be happy if it just dies on the vine, but it's more credible now than before I'm afraid (in a relaxed kinda way). Heck, maybe it'll be a complete purchase of DL and a breakup of LCC to satisfy the DOJ, I dunno. Methinks it's you that may need to relax a little.

You seemed to have missed the NWA and DL talk. There are plenty of other alternatives, and Parker knows this. Read the Bethune article I just posted. He stated marriage partners would have to make sense, and they would have to have complementary routes, like Asia and Europe. NWA and DL know this. There won't be pieces broken off, that is your speculation. Nah.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You realize General Lee that if this deal does go through you will have lost all credibility on this board....This is your personal flightinfo.com hail marry. What will you do with yourself if you have to retire from this board in shame? Better start thinking of a new screen name and set aside 10bucks for a membership....lol....

all in good fun

Heck no. I can see a NWA/DL merge, but I can't see a US takeover. And no, I would never leave this board. I have almost 8000 posts. I will hit 10,000 by the Summer. As far as credibility, this is an opinion board, and I can give my opinion. I think this US takeover won't go, and I provide my proof with articles and speculation. And, I don't really care what anyone thinks on this board. I like the debate.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

www.buildingabetterairline.com

It is actually a weak site. The statements from analysts etc are old and most are from the Nov 15th announcement by USAir. Our site has statements from Government officials and more recent analyst statements. Keep Delta my Delta, or atleast stay away from USAir....I'll take freezing cold MSP walk arounds anyday.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[800Dog]

Heck no. I can see a NWA/DL merge, but I can't see a US takeover. And no, I would never leave this board. I have almost 8000 posts. I will hit 10,000 by the Summer. As far as credibility, this is an opinion board, and I can give my opinion. I think this US takeover won't go, and I provide my proof with articles and speculation. And, I don't really care what anyone thinks on this board. I like the debate.


Bye Bye--General Lee

At the current rate, I say you hit 10,000 well before summer. I say April 29th. Takers?