US Airways pilot pleads guilty to upskirt photo

[say again]

so where's the pictures at? WTF?

Dude, she f!^%ing 15 years old. You're sick if you want pics.

 

[chqflyer]

I think the underlying question really is, "how much time is wasted in 14,000 posts"?

Even if one post is just 1 minute,....14000 minutes......ugh!! staggering waste of time,...or is it ?


14000 minutes/60 minutes= 233.33 hours

233.33 hours/ 24 hours == 9.72 days

9.72 days/ 7 = 1.38 weeks

....just sayin'.......

I dunno. I've got a teenager at home that could probably send that many texts in one day.:erm:

 

[Full of LUV]

America West Flight 556

America West Flight 556 was a regularly scheduled flight from Miami, Florida, to Phoenix, Arizona, operated by America West Airlines. On July 1, 2002, the plane was ordered back to the terminal after the pilots were suspected of being legally drunk. The pilots were ultimately convicted of operating an aircraft while intoxicated.

On June 30, Captain Thomas Cloyd and First Officer Christopher Hughes flew from Phoenix to Miami. That night, they entered Mr. Moe's, a sports bar in Miami's Coconut Grove neighborhood, along with the three flight attendants scheduled to fly with them on Flight 556 the next morning. At 10:30 p.m. that night, Cloyd opened up a tab. Over the next six hours, Cloyd and Hughes drank seven 34-ounce beers, seven 16-ounce beers, one draft beer of unspecified size, and a martini. They also ate a hamburger. The tab ran to US$122.28, to which Hughes added a $20 tip. The bar staff finally kicked the men out at 4:45 a.m. after they knocked over a bar stool, and Cloyd and Hughes returned to their hotel at 5:30 a.m. The flight attendants had left the bar several hours earlier.
A shuttle arrived at the hotel to pick up Cloyd, Hughes and the flight attendants at 9:30 a.m. However, they had to wait about 20 minutes for Hughes, who entered looking somewhat disheveled. Flight 556 was scheduled to leave for Sky Harbor International Airport in Phoenix at 10:38 a.m. When the shuttle arrived at Miami International Airport, the pilots stopped at Starbucks Coffee before going to the security checkpoint. A security screener asked Cloyd to throw away his coffee cup, but Cloyd refused. When a supervisor was called and tried to get him to comply, Cloyd responded, "that ******************** doesn't apply to me." However, Cloyd finally threw away his coffee cup after police were called. Several screeners reported smelling alcohol on the pilots' breath and asked a ground security coordinator to speak with them at the gate. When she noted that there were concerns Cloyd and Hughes were drunk, Cloyd blamed it on bad breath. However, the supervisor had already called the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), who then alerted the police.
By the time police arrived, the A319 had already been pushed off the bridge by the tug. However, the police and TSA ordered the plane back to the terminal. Cloyd and Hughes failed a field sobriety test and were arrested at 11:45 a.m. for operating an aircraft while intoxicated, a felony in Florida. America West canceled the flight and arranged for the 127 passengers to fly to Phoenix on other airlines.
At the police station, Cloyd and Hughes both consented to a breathalyzer test. Cloyd's blood alcohol content was 0.091; Hughes' was 0.084. Both results were above Florida's motor vehicle legal limit of 0.08, and more than double the Federal Aviation Administration's limit of 0.04. America West fired Cloyd and Hughes the next day, and the FAA grounded them on July 4. Cloyd had worked for America West since 1990; Hughes since 1999. At the time, America West had a policy that barred its pilots from drinking 12 hours before a flight, meaning that Cloyd and Hughes' careers were in jeopardy shortly after they opened their bar tab. This was stricter than the FAA's requirement that pilots do not drink for four hours before a flight (since changed to eight hours). It later emerged that Cloyd had not told America West that he had been arrested twice for alcohol-related offenses.
Cloyd and Hughes were subsequently indicted by a Miami-Dade County grand jury on one count each of operating an aircraft while intoxicated. They were released on $7,500 bail.
However, the pilots tried to get the case thrown out, contending that the federal government had exclusive jurisdiction over aviation safety unless there is a loss of life, serious injury, or damage to property. In 2003, a federal judge agreed with the pilots. This was critical, because federal law allows for prosecution only if one's blood alcohol content is 0.10 or higher. The pilots were below that standard (although they were far above the FAA standard), raising the possibility that they would escape federal charges. However, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Florida did have jurisdiction over the case and that its prosecution had to run its course before federal courts got involved. This decision was upheld by the Supreme Court. The pilots then negotiated a plea bargain in which they would have pleaded guilty in return for 14-month prison terms. However, Circuit Court Judge David Young rejected the deal, and the trial began in May 2005.
The main issue of the trial was the definition of "operating an aircraft." In order to win a conviction, the state had to prove the pilots were in control of the plane while under the influence of alcohol. The prosecution contended that the pilots were operating the aircraft from the moment they assumed responsibility for the plane. An America West operations manager testified that Cloyd signed a dispatch release accepting responsibility for the Airbus. When they arrived on the plane, prosecutors said, Cloyd and Hughes began several steps to complete the operation process. Hughes performed several safety checks and received clearance to input flight directives. The prosecution also heavily stressed Cloyd and Hughes' blood alcohol levels, which were taken nearly three hours after they arrived at the airport and over seven hours after they had their last drink. One state witness even suggested that at the time they arrived on the plane, the pilots may have had blood alcohol levels as high as 0.15.
The defense contended that the order to return the plane to the terminal was issued before the plane was released from the tug. They argued that there was no steering at the time, and therefore the pilots were never in control of the plane. The defense called only one witness, tug operator Franklin Tejeda, who said that he never relinquished control of the plane since there was a steel rod attached to the nose wheel. As long as the rod was attached, Tejeda said, the pilots could not steer the plane. However, the prosecution got him to admit that he only began driving the tug when ordered to do so by the pilots. This admission by Tejada severely crippled Cloyd and Hughes' defense. On June 8, a six-man jury convicted Cloyd and Hughes of operating an aircraft while intoxicated after six hours of deliberation.
In sentencing on July 20, Young called Cloyd and Hughes' behavior "outrageous," especially in light of the September 11, 2001, attacks. He sentenced Cloyd to the maximum sentence of five years in prison and sentenced Hughes to 2.5 years in prison. In addition, both men were fined $5,000 and will be on probation once released, during which they will have to perform community service and not be allowed to fly a plane. Under the circumstances, it is highly unlikely either Cloyd or Hughes will ever fly any type of aircraft again.

Wow, interesting article.... are these two out of prison yet? Did they have families depending on them? At first glance it seems like a good deal of 14 beers, martini, burger and more for $122..... but in the end it cost a whole lot more.
I guess for some pilots the only thing more powerful than the power of the "V" is the power of the bottle!

 

[brokeflyer]

Dude, she f!^%ing 15 years old. You're sick if you want pics.

that one kinda went way over your head I see.

 

[waka]

Ah yes, another "Professional" from the East side......

:laugh:

I bet that you're a devotee of reality television shows. I don't know, it's just a hunch.

 

[weasel_lips]

Bye Bye--General Lee

Internet douch(e) bag with no life.

14,000 posts about nothing.

 

[Heavy Set]

Hey loser. Almost to 14000. Maybe you can call me an easthole 7 posts in a row and hit that magic milestone........in other words, get a life.

But, he is right. Those East pilots are jerks. If you can't keep your word or sign on the dotted line and then do the opposite, what good are you? To everyone else, you are the loser, especially if you WickedPissa are an East jerk yourself.

 

[Heavy Set]

Internet douch(e) bag with no life.

14,000 posts about nothing.

Maybe, but he is right about the East guys. Everyone else can see it too.

 

[Heavy Set]

I think the underlying question really is, "how much time is wasted in 14,000 posts"?

Even if one post is just 1 minute,....14000 minutes......ugh!! staggering waste of time,...or is it ?


14000 minutes/60 minutes= 233.33 hours

233.33 hours/ 24 hours == 9.72 days

9.72 days/ 7 = 1.38 weeks

....just sayin'.......

But how long has he been a member of this board? If it were all at once, maybe it would be ridiculous. Regardless, he is one of the reasons I keep returning to this board. He may not always be classy, but he is often funny, and he is right with a lot of his points. He loves to jab the SWA, Comair, and other groups that need a good jab every once and awhile. I think more people enjoy his rants than hate them.

(waiting for a comment from a USair or SWA pilot any minute)

 

[Captzaahlie]

Even Sulley had to leave that side for good because he wanted to keep what was left of his "integrity........."


Bye Bye--General Lee

I'm not really trying to propagate the East vs. West thing with this tidbit of info, I'm more like trying to educate the genital....

Actually truth be told Sully allowed himself to be used as a "figurehead" by USAPA at court hearings in PHX. That's not "integrity" that's using your newfound fame to help confuse/sway court proceedings. Sully left the industry because he could afford to retire and probably didnt feel like leaving the house anymore with the newly restored "hotness" he created in the bedroom with the Mrs! :blush:
Just for the record, The last sentence was an actual partial quote from his wife!:beer:
As a fellow glider pilot, I have a lot of respect for Sully's quick decision making. However letting himself get whored out for Usapa's gain was not a very noble thing to do to your fellow pilot!

 

[Heavy Set]

I'm not really trying to propagate the East vs. West thing with this tidbit of info, I'm more like trying to educate the genital....

Actually truth be told Sully allowed himself to be used as a "figurehead" by USAPA at court hearings in PHX. That's not "integrity" that's using your newfound fame to help confuse/sway court proceedings. Sully left the industry because he could afford to retire and probably didnt feel like leaving the house anymore with the newly restored "hotness" he created in the bedroom with the Mrs! :blush:
Just for the record, The last sentence was an actual partial quote from his wife!:beer:
As a fellow glider pilot, I have a lot of respect for Sully's quick decision making. However letting himself get whored out for Usapa's gain was not a very noble thing to do to your fellow pilot!

I think the General was referring to just that, and you are the one who got duped. Why would he put quotes around that word? And I think Sully stated he and his wife had "hero sex" after the incident, but he would also go up to apparent West guys and introduce himself as "Sully", not as "Captain Sully Sullenberger", insinuating that he himself thought he was famous. I agree with the General, a lot of the East guys really think a lot about themselves, even though they renegged on binding arbitration. Pretty sad.

 

[St. Nic]

I think the General was referring to just that, and you are the one who got duped. Why would he put quotes around that word? And I think Sully stated he and his wife had "hero sex" after the incident, but he would also go up to apparent West guys and introduce himself as "Sully", not as "Captain Sully Sullenberger", insinuating that he himself thought he was famous. I agree with the General, a lot of the East guys really think a lot about themselves, even though they renegged on binding arbitration. Pretty sad.

Friend, you sure know a lot about us without ever flying with us. You must not have had good manners growing up, either that or your a Delta pilot. But seriously, you need to show more respect to major airline pilots.

 

[Heavy Set]

Friend, you sure know a lot about us without ever flying with us. You must not have had good manners growing up, either that or your a Delta pilot. But seriously, you need to show more respect to major airline pilots.

Classic. I used to fly 747s for Tower Air, but now fly a corporate challenger and most likely make twice what you make thanks to being the chief pilot of this operation, and incharge of the whole flight department. But seriously, everyone on this board and anyone who knows anything about binding arbitration knows you guys are jerks. You sign on the dotted line, you need to go along with the judgement. You lose, seriously.

 

[St. Nic]

Classic. I used to fly 747s for Tower Air... blah blah...You lose, seriously.

SO you never flew for a major airline, just a trash hauler. Great, you must be so proud. Oh, and as far as losing, you might want to tell that to the 9th Circuit Appeals court because they reaffirmed Seham.

 

[weasel_lips]

Delta suspends jailed pilot

Delta suspends jailed pilot


By Megan Matteucci


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Delta Air Lines has suspended a pilot while officials investigate charges he tried to run over two Griffin police officers with his private plane.

Dan Wayne Gryder, 48, remains in the Spalding County jail, charged with two counts of aggravated assault and obstruction. He is being held without bond and is scheduled to be arraigned on Friday, the sheriff’s office said.
Gryder, a Delta pilot and private aircraft instructor, was arrested Wednesday at the Griffin-Spalding Airport.
“He is suspended pending the completion into the investigation in this incident,” Delta spokesman Anthony Black said Thursday.
The FAA is also investigating Wednesday's incident and could revoke Gryder's pilot's license or issue additional sanctions.
"If it was a violation, it would be a civil matter not a criminal matter," FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said.
Griffin code enforcement officers were called to the airport on Wednesday for a report of a pilot disrupting the airport. Gryder was driving his car across the runway and taxiway, Griffin Police Investigator Bryan Clanton said.
The two officers approached the suspect and he gave them a fake name. After learning the pilot was Gryder, the officers attempted to issue him six citations, police said.
However, Gryder refused to sign the tickets and boarded his plane, a 1937 DC-3A. He started the engine and told one of the officers that if she moved, he would strike her, police said.
The officer, who was standing next to the prop, moved out of the way and summoned backup.
Additional Griffin officers and Spalding County deputies flooded the area and ordered him to stop, but Gryder continued to taxi down the runway, police said.
Gryder got to the end of the runway and attempted to take off, but he was out of gas.
Police arrested Gryder and transported him to jail.
Gryder’s actions disrupted air traffic, prohibiting flights from departing or arriving, police said.
“He essentially shut the airport down for almost 45 minutes,” Clanton said. “His actions created a danger for all of our officers, himself and others who lawfully use the airport.”
Gryder has a history of disturbances at the Griffin airport, including previous complaints of him illegally driving his car on the runways, according to Robert Mohl, the airport's director.
“He’s done it before and he’s been warned," Mohl said.
Mohl said he doesn't understand why Gryder didn't just sign the tickets on Wednesday, which would have ordered him to appear in court. He likely would have just gotten a fine instead of jail time, Mohl said.
"But he decided to pursue a different course of action, which disrupted our planes from coming and going," he said.
The Griffin airport does not have air traffic control, so pilots must announce their own comings and goings, Mohl said.
"It’s quite safe as long as everybody follows the rules. One of the rules is ground vehicles stay off the runways and taxiways," Mohl said.
FAA records show Gryder has one prior investigation into a mechanical problem in 2005. There was a problem with a bracket that fastened his rear landing gear. FAA investigated it and found he was not at fault, Bergen said.
Gryder has his own hangar at the Griffin airport, where he stores the DC-3A involved in Wednesday's incident and several other aircraft, Mohl said. Gryder uses his planes for metro area airshows and to teach other pilots. Gryder operates an aviation training and consulting company.
Reached Thursday night, Gryder's wife declined to comment and said her husband would be home on Friday.

 

[captfred]

SO you never flew for a major airline, just a trash hauler. Great, you must be so proud. Oh, and as far as losing, you might want to tell that to the 9th Circuit Appeals court because they reaffirmed Seham.

Are you calling our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines "trash"? That was a big percentage of who Tower Air flew around the world.

 

[JT8D]

Don't forget about these two America West 'Gems' :

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...endant-arrested-in-love-triangle-assault.html

 

[Sandhawk]

Don't forget about these two America West 'Gems' :

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...endant-arrested-in-love-triangle-assault.html

Late to the party, DBag - already posted!

Maybe we should pull up some statistics from the NTSB site......

 

[JT8D]

Late to the party, DBag - already posted!

Maybe we should pull up some statistics from the NTSB site......

I know it's been posted knuckle head. But since this has turned into a "who's got the most screw-ups, east or west" thread, I thought I'd throw that in there.

I'm retired, but for the record, I never liked America Wests contract negotiations. "We like our free time" BS instead of real gains didn't float with me.

 

[Sandhawk]

I know it's been posted knuckle head. But since this has turned into a "who's got the most screw-ups, east or west" thread, I thought I'd throw that in there.

I'm retired, but for the record, I never liked America Wests contract negotiations. "We like our free time" BS instead of real gains didn't float with me.

Yeah, and I'm still looking for a YES voter on AWA contract 04

:laugh: