US Airways "I'm on board lanyards?"

[TWA Dude]

Wow, Puffy, if I had respect for a bunch scam artists, liars, and opportunists I don't think I'd brag about it.

 

[PuffDriver]

Wow, Puffy, if I had respect for a bunch scam artists, liars, and opportunists I don't think I'd brag about it.

There was no bragging, it was a statement.

I am a former TWA pilot, and definitely don't brag about it. It was an embarrassing time in my life.

USAirways is a surviving pilot group, and comments by the juveniles on this board aren't going to bring them down, nor will anything else most likely. SWA seems to have its share of scumbags too, as does Delta, as AMWest certainly did, etc.

In summary, YAWN.

 

[TWA Dude]

I am a former TWA pilot, and definitely don't brag about it. It was an embarrassing time in my life.

Were you fired? I'd be embarrassed of that too. If you're still a pilot who do you fly for now?

 

[PuffDriver]

Were you fired? I'd be embarrassed of that too. If you're still a pilot who do you fly for now?

I know that it would fit into your childish rant if I were fired, but unfortunately for you, I moved on to greener pastures.

Do you realize that the same barbs you are throwing at USAir would have been hurled at the TWA pilots should message boards have been around at the time- scumbag group flying for crummy compensation; a bottom feeder airline that should just go away. Many of those same people talked that way about America West, who never really did anything to help the cause in aviation compensation; who even led the charge to change age 60 leading to the stagnation we have experienced over the past few years.

Indeed every airline at one time or another has had its dark days, but not every one has had its shining moment. The USAirways pilots are merely doing what they've always done--trying to deal with the blows dealt to them in the best way they know how. They are taking care of their own, while everyone else--including members of their own union--has been planning around their demise; writing them off the books as another failure. This is a group that led the industry in contractual compensation for many years while TWA was dragging the bar--through no fault of their own.

Meanwhile, we applaud the likes of SWA, Fed Ex, UPS--all of whom do not have that shining moment-merely riding the coattails of the true advancers of this profession.

By all means, feel free to carry on with you web board immaturity. Judging by your "credentials" you are a johnny-come-lately to the process. That would be fine, except you have not the humility to even try to understand what it is like to walk in another's shoes. In the mean time, those who have seen more, done more, and forgotten more than you ever will will continue to do what they do: smile through the rain, laugh at the pain, and flow with the changes till the sun comes out again--Wet Willie.

Back to your playpen.

 

[TWA Dude]

Nice rant. You rationalize with complete sentences. People with integrity live up to their commitments. The AWA and US Airways pilots had a deal: we'd let an arbitrator settle our seniority. The pilot group you admire so much decided they didn't like it and are trying to impose something beneficial to them. I'm glad you left TWA. I'm embarrassed you were ever there.

 

[PuffDriver]

Nice rant. You rationalize with complete sentences. People with integrity live up to their commitments. The AWA and US Airways pilots had a deal: we'd let an arbitrator settle our seniority. The pilot group you admire so much decided they didn't like it and are trying to impose something beneficial to them. I'm glad you left TWA. I'm embarrassed you were ever there.

YAWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Nothing to see here. Bored. Leaving. I'll leave you to be king of the thread. It's all you have.

 

[sktwstdfrk]

juveniles

The on board tactics by (east) airways are juvenile.

The entitlement and arrogant culture by the yellow lanyards (not everyone over there sporting the yellow) is childish.

 

[PuffDriver]

The on board tactics by (east) airways are juvenile.

The entitlement and arrogant culture by the yellow lanyards (not everyone over there sporting the yellow) is childish.

Perhaps. I have not seen them for myself. I have seen some antics by west crews which are just as juvenile. I know several east pilots who are on board, but do not flaunt it with a lanyard for that very reason. They are not so much anti-niccolau as they are anti-alpa and the events surrounding alpa.
FWIW

 

[WSurf]

I know that it would fit into your childish rant if I were fired, but unfortunately for you, I moved on to greener pastures.

Do you realize that the same barbs you are throwing at USAir would have been hurled at the TWA pilots should message boards have been around at the time- scumbag group flying for crummy compensation; a bottom feeder airline that should just go away. Many of those same people talked that way about America West, who never really did anything to help the cause in aviation compensation; who even led the charge to change age 60 leading to the stagnation we have experienced over the past few years.

Indeed every airline at one time or another has had its dark days, but not every one has had its shining moment. The USAirways pilots are merely doing what they've always done--trying to deal with the blows dealt to them in the best way they know how. They are taking care of their own, while everyone else--including members of their own union--has been planning around their demise; writing them off the books as another failure. This is a group that led the industry in contractual compensation for many years while TWA was dragging the bar--through no fault of their own.

Meanwhile, we applaud the likes of SWA, Fed Ex, UPS--all of whom do not have that shining moment-merely riding the coattails of the true advancers of this profession.

By all means, feel free to carry on with you web board immaturity. Judging by your "credentials" you are a johnny-come-lately to the process. That would be fine, except you have not the humility to even try to understand what it is like to walk in another's shoes. In the mean time, those who have seen more, done more, and forgotten more than you ever will will continue to do what they do: smile through the rain, laugh at the pain, and flow with the changes till the sun comes out again--Wet Willie.

Back to your playpen.

Well said Puff!

 

[Flyer1015]

Says the RJ pilot

At least this RJ pilot accepts his binding arbitration award, even if he isn't happy with the conditions/restrictions. I wouldn't badmouth the RJ pilots too much, most of them make more than the top FO salary at US Air.

 

[altimaklr]

Pinnacle CRJ900 CA rates are higher than US Airways E190 rates... They really are an embarrassment.

 

[ackattacker]

I wouldn't badmouth the RJ pilots too much, most of them make more than the top FO salary at US Air.

This is not a true statement. Top FO salary at US Air is $109/hour plus 10% into a retirement fund. Very low to be sure compared to other majors but show me an RJ pilot making that much.

 

[altimaklr]

Current CR9 CA pay rate goes to $106 and will be $119 in 5 years. Add checkairman pay on that and it'll go up another 20% or so.

 

[Flyprdu]

Pinnacle CRJ900 CA rates are higher than US Airways E190 rates... They really are an embarrassment.

Here we go again. Pinnacle logic at work:

The hourly rate is the rate. It's not with overtime, or check airman pay. It is what it is.

9E guys are so quick to tell you how much they earn. They just fail to mention that they're working 22 days a month to get it.

Max 9E 900 pay = 106
Max US 190 pay = 125

It's not close. Does that suck for a major? You bet. But let's not delude ourselves, shall we?

 

[PuffDriver]

At least this RJ pilot accepts his binding arbitration award, even if he isn't happy with the conditions/restrictions. I wouldn't badmouth the RJ pilots too much, most of them make more than the top FO salary at US Air.

Now you want to compare f/o salary at USAir with captain salary at regionals. 20 year f/os at Airays make more than 20 year capatins on the RJ. Plus, you are likely working your hind end off to do it--if you even are. Additionally, there are many other aspects to consider other than pay, although I know that is what RJ pilots consider most important. it is here that USAirways has some of its best kept secrets.

In short, YAWN. RJ pilot-I-know-it-all syndrome

 

[ThrottleJockey1]

Ackattacker,
10% into retirement. Be careful how loud you say it, you might have to explain what happen to your guys pensions.

 

[ackattacker]

Ackattacker,
10% into retirement. Be careful how loud you say it, you might have to explain what happen to your guys pensions.

That is a true statement. Of course I better be quiet around United and Delta pilots, too.

How's the pension plan going over at Express? Gonna take a lump-sum, are you, maybe cruise the world in your new yacht?

Point is things are bad enough at Airways but there's no need to make them seem worse than they are. When you compare apples to apples you are still better off at Airways than at a regional.

 

[Dornier 335]

No mo' "I'm on board" lanyards in August.

A memo came out on 11 July outlining that every US Airways employee and their subsidiaries will get a new US Airways/Star Alliance lanyard. All other lanyards will not be permitted to be worn.

Currently a wide variety of lanyards, badge backers and clips are worn by employees to secure their
company-issued ID and airport badges. This causes confusion as it doesn’t present the professional look
that we are striving to achieve in accordance with our goals to consistently deliver Reliability,
Convenience and Appearance for our customers. It also is, quite frankly, creating divisiveness among our
workforce as lanyards, badge backers and other ID holders are often used to promote individual and
organizational agendas that are counterproductive to creating a positive working environment for all
employees.

 

[OPECJet]

If everyone man's up and throws 'em in the trash, there's safety in numbers.....

Just sayin.

 

[OPECJet]

I'm also reasonably sure your union lanyard is protected under federal law.