UPS wannabe's.... UPS is toying with you, seeing how "bad" you want it.

[skengdon]

Boy, 30 days sure goes by quick!



ERJFO....the 757/767.

What about A/C in MIA for UPS?

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Aircraft out of ONT... everything flys out of there but officially its a 757/767 Domicile

Aircraft out of MIA... 757/767 Domicile but gets traffic from the A300, DC8 (occasionally) and the 727

If you had an application that you keep updating from 2006, you are wasting your time... UPS PR will never check that file again... You must re-apply for FY2007. I am not sure when the window will open back up, but my advice is to check it everyday or as much as you can.

BBDC8

 

[skengdon]

thanks BBDC8

 

[Fit59]

800-241-2357 Call this number frequently, it will tell you when the window re-opens. Good luck, FNG FIT59

 

[TankerDrvr]

Aircraft out of ONT... everything flys out of there but officially its a 757/767 Domicile

Aircraft out of MIA... 757/767 Domicile but gets traffic from the A300, DC8 (occasionally) and the 727

If you had an application that you keep updating from 2006, you are wasting your time... UPS PR will never check that file again... You must re-apply for FY2007. I am not sure when the window will open back up, but my advice is to check it everyday or as much as you can.

BBDC8

I can confirm BBDC8's last point and add to it. If you are updating your app, it's the 2006 app and like BBDC8 said, it will never be looked at again - you are wasting your time. If you've submitted an app for 2007, it CANNOT be updated, just a function of the program. I went up to talk to HR today and that is the word I got.

 

[PreContact]

I can confirm BBDC8's last point and add to it. If you are updating your app, it's the 2006 app and like BBDC8 said, it will never be looked at again - you are wasting your time. If you've submitted an app for 2007, it CANNOT be updated, just a function of the program. I went up to talk to HR today and that is the word I got.

Is this permanent or is a fix on the way?

 

[Beaker]

Weird...

If you've submitted an app for 2007, it CANNOT be updated, just a function of the program. I went up to talk to HR today and that is the word I got.

This app thing is truly a mystery - 1) misleading info in 2006 when trying to update an app and getting a msg stating your info has been added, when in fact all your info has been dropped, 2) allowing updates of 2006 apps in 2007 when the 2006 apps are useless, 3) peek-a-boo application opportunities, and...

4) It sure looked like I was able to update my 2007 app today. Perhaps the above post reflects that HR doesn't review any updates to the apps, and that you get one shot at it...

 

[ultrarunner]

From another UPS pilot.


I talked to Buz Thompson (UPS HR) in person last week. He said all of the 2006 app's
were dumped "on purpose" ...

I don't keep resumes on file that long either. I don't see a problem.

 

[TankerDrvr]

Is this permanent or is a fix on the way?

Not sure if a fix is on the way but the person I talked to said HR isn't happy that applications can't be updated. They never intended for that to happen and I gathered that they are working on a fix. HR didn't realize people wouldn't be unable to update when the changes were made to the system. Does that answer your question?

 

[TankerDrvr]

This app thing is truly a mystery - 1) misleading info in 2006 when trying to update an app and getting a msg stating your info has been added, when in fact all your info has been dropped, 2) allowing updates of 2006 apps in 2007 when the 2006 apps are useless, 3) peek-a-boo application opportunities, and...

4) It sure looked like I was able to update my 2007 app today. Perhaps the above post reflects that HR doesn't review any updates to the apps, and that you get one shot at it...

I asked the update question because a friend of mine said he is able to update his 2007 app. She said he's actually updating his 2006 app because 2007 app's are "unupdatable" - I made up that word. So I guess my friend has been wasting his time updating his app the past month or so. This new system is crazy. Once your 2007 app is in and you've got confirmation that it was submitted, it will always be "in the running" when they poll the computer for future interviews. Unfortunately your time's aren't as accurate as the could be. As I said above, they aren't happy that you can't update you app. I hope it changes soon.

 

[767pilot]

Is this permanent or is a fix on the way?

That IS the fix!

 

[174037]

Dumb question but if I filled out an app online January 30, is that considered a 2007 app? When I go to inquiries it says "Active".

 

[350corp]

More UPS questions

Question for Mega/767 or BBDC8:

Anybody heard of UPS caring if you left your previous employer on short notice, or even no notice to come to a UPS class?

Currently seeing a bad work situation get worse on my way out.

350corp

 

[capt. megadeth]

Question for Mega/767 or BBDC8:

Anybody heard of UPS caring if you left your previous employer on short notice, or even no notice to come to a UPS class?

Currently seeing a bad work situation get worse on my way out.

350corp

I wish I could answer that but I really don't know.

 

[dazdandconfused]

app question

OK...I just want to make sure I'm not on crack. The app should be under www.upsjobs.com, then Professional Opportunities; Air Operations...right??

Anything I'm missing? Thanks in advance.

 

[V2plus25]

Yep, when the app window is open it should be there under Flight Officer.

 

[767pilot]

Question for Mega/767 or BBDC8:

Anybody heard of UPS caring if you left your previous employer on short notice, or even no notice to come to a UPS class?

Currently seeing a bad work situation get worse on my way out.

350corp

To answer your question literally, I have never heard of them caring. Doesn't mean that they don't, but the reality is it is none of their business. If they offered you a date, they must know how much notice they gave you. Even if you sat on that notice and didn't tell your employer, what can they do about it?

I've been where you are, actually gave notice and was called every name in the book by a guy that ran a flight school. Multi engine time awaited which would allow me to do what I needed to do in the big picture. He may have been right in the names he called me <G> but I left for the greater good. Your life is a business. Don't feel bad because your current employer wasn't able to offer you as good of a deal as UPS did. That is their problem, not yours.

 

[1800 RVR]

To answer your question literally, I have never heard of them caring. Doesn't mean that they don't, but the reality is it is none of their business. If they offered you a date, they must know how much notice they gave you. Even if you sat on that notice and didn't tell your employer, what can they do about it?

I've been where you are, actually gave notice and was called every name in the book by a guy that ran a flight school. Multi engine time awaited which would allow me to do what I needed to do in the big picture. He may have been right in the names he called me <G> but I left for the greater good. Your life is a business. Don't feel bad because your current employer wasn't able to offer you as good of a deal as UPS did. That is their problem, not yours.

Ditto. Before coming here, I had started with a new "company", if you can call them that. Resigned with a 2 week notice - never spent money on me in the sim or anything. Received nasty emails from the chief pilot/DO saying that I didn't even have the courtesy of giving them a letter. Well, everything was in order; they just cared not to look. Once you have that offer, they shouldn't care. Companies do the short-call all the time. As long as you didn't lie on your app or anything dishonest like that, I personally wouldn't sweat it.

 

[b707guy]

Don't give up seniority, especially at a company like UPS, just to give your old company a courtesy departure call. About the only reason I could think otherwise is if your old company treated you well, and then only if you are under the impression that you need to stay in their good graces should you need to come crawling back. My company re-hired quite a few back while we were hiring post 9/11 when everyone was getting laid off by the legacies, so long as they gave sufficient notice (being liked certainly helped, too - not everyone that wanted to come back was "invited"). Hopefully, that won't be an issue at either Fed Ex or UPS. Ever.

 

[Russ]

Simply a cost of doing business.