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[Browndog]

Haven't seen a route map but the SDFZ goes almost everywhere except South America. Been doing the Z for awhile now and the only "uncool" place I've been to is Mumbai.

It may be possible to get MIA as a new hire but the more likely scenario would be to get there on a vacancy bid.

BD

 

[psysicx]

What aircraft flys to SA sounds like fun.What is a typical international line look like.

 

[Clyde]

What aircraft flys to SA sounds like fun.What is a typical international line look like.

psysicx,

I flew the 757/767 international for a year. On reserve, you can expect to be on for 16 days followed by 12 days off. Toss-up whether or not you get used all, some or none of the days. I typically was used for at least 12-14 of them. The plus side is you get one call, go do your long trip, and come home.

Typical trip: SDF-ANC, a lot of the times it's a dead-head to ANC. From ANC, you could expect to fly to Narita. Over the next 10 days or so, you would leave Narita and fly to Singapore via a stop in Tapei. From Singapore you could go either intra-Asia or continue the round-the-world flight to Mumbai (Bombay). From their expect to go to Dubai, and either layover or continue to Cologne, Germany. Good layover in Cologne and then off to either EWR or PHL, layover and either operate or deadhead to SDF.

OR,

You could do a trip similar to this, except you start on the East Coast and work your way around the world in that direction. Sometimes you get to Europe and operate intra-Europe, or end up in Asia and do intra-Asia for a while. More senior trips have you operate to Cologne or East Midlands and then back to the U.S. In my experience, sometimes I would operate from SDF, eventually getting to India, bounce between Mumbai and Tapei a couple of times, and then eventually make it back to ANC.

The trans-oceanic flying is 767, and the rest of the flying is a mix between it and the 757. The variety is great if you don't like the same old stuff, and you will see a large part of the world. Layovers can range from short (approx. 14hrs) to as much as long (70hours). In addition, you could also fly Mexico flying. This is very similar to a 757 domestic flying schedule.

A mix of FO and IRO flying. A lot of times, I would operate as one on half the trip and the other for the remainder.

Typical international trip will have you gone for a longer period of days than domestic, but you will also have longer stretches of days off at a time too. I can't speak for the SA flying, because I've never flown in that domicile. I found international to be fun. Long days, long stretches on the road, but I found it easier than domestic and it had more variey.

Hope this helps,

- Clyde

 

[psysicx]

Thanks for the great post.I like the sound of around the world trips.

 

[Gumby]

Is there a route map available or a listing of cities.Also what are considered cool and uncool cities.

Route map? WTFO? Oh my!

 

[LittleLearBoy]

That is just what I am doing now Clyde in a 75/76. Been over both lakes and back. Even did a trip out over parts of the forme USSR and India Ocean, Nigeria, and S. Africa too. I have ran into soem UPS guys out in the Japan once. Looking forward to that class date. All I have been doing is International forthe past 2.5 years now.

 

[satpak77]

length of legs?

on these "round the world flights", how long (hours wise) is each leg? Do you fly 5 hours one day, then 2 the next, then 7.9 hours one day, etc?

sorry if this sounds simple-simon, I am a Part 91 guy

 

[Browndog]

Just finished a round the globe trip a week or so ago and consisted of:

Dead Head (on UPS) SDF-ANC, 28hr layover
IRO ANC-TPE, 10+hr block, 36hr layover
IRO TPE-BOM-DXB, 10+hr block, 28hr layover
Commercial (Emirates) DXB-BOM, 24hr layover
IRO BOM-DXB-CGN, 9+hr block, 36hr layover
FO CGN-EMA, 24hr layover
FO EMA-PHL, 26hr layover
FO PHL-SDF

BD

 

[satpak77]

another quick question

do the majority of UPS pilots live in SDF? Commuting would suck if you are faced with those types of trips

my opinion of course

 

[Browndog]

Don't quote me but I would guess about 50% or less live within 3-4 hours drive of Louisville. Commuting could be easy because you could either start in Louisville with the scheduled dead head or just get to ANC with enough crew rest for the first operating leg. Living in domicile makes life easier if you don't mind KY or southren IN. Like a wise airline captain once said "to get the most out of an airline career, keep your first house and wife and live in domicile".

BD

 

[rwelch]

What is IRO???

 

[LittleLearBoy]

IRO is International Refiel Officer. It is a second pilot who is a F/O who is typed. When you are forcasted to fly more then 8 hours in 24 hours you are required to have one.

 

[psysicx]

If you have to deadhead to ANC and don't live in base will they fly you out anywhere?Also is there a seat lock,I know most people stay in one aircraft since the pay is the same.

 

[Check Essential]

do the majority of UPS pilots live in SDF? Commuting would suck if you are faced with those types of trips

my opinion of course

On the contrary. If you fly a long international trip such as the one above, commuting becomes all the more doable. You’re essentially flying one trip a month and thus only have to commute once a month.

CE