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Update on RAH in HI...

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Date: October 1, 2008
To: All RAH Flight Attendants
From: Gary Weatherlow
Re: New Proposed S5 Base

Shuttle America has a potential opportunity for a new code share agreement with additional flying beginning on or before November 15, 2008. This bid is in anticipation of a possible code share agreement in Hawaii that will be announced within 10 days should it come together. It is necessary to complete the bidding time line prior to the posting of the November 2008 PBS bids and in anticipation of this opportunity being finalized. This crew base would open no later than November 15, 2008 in HNL (Honolulu, HI). Initially the trips are anticipated to be single day trips.

Travel benefits are unknown at this time but it should be anticipated that at least initially you will have limited travel privileges outside the inter-island flying. There will be a different uniform more aligned with Island attire.

HNL EMB 170 Shuttle America

The company is posting 22 Flight Attendant positions. Bids will be accepted until 1700 hours on the closing date. If interested, please update your vacancy bid in Flica. To correctly bid and to be considered for this position, please bid for HNL UHL CA in Flica under Vacancy.

Vacancies will be awarded in order of seniority using standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Vacancies caused by filling this primary award will be awarded using the standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Not all vacancies created by this bid award may be filled.

Please use Flica to bid. Bid closes 1700 hours on October 8, 2008.

In an effort to help answer concerns, here is some information on housing. These areas were identified as having reasonable housing in the HNL area.
East Shore: Central Oahu: North Honolulu (less likely, but possible):
Kaneohe Wahiawa (near Wheeler AAF) Pearl City
Kailua Waipahu

Apartment and Rental info for the area(s) is available on
www.Apartments.com www.Rent.com www.AreaGuides.net
 

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Whaaaa??
 

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In an effort to help answer concerns, here is some information on housing. These areas were identified as having reasonable housing in the HNL area.
East Shore: Central Oahu: North Honolulu (less likely, but possible):
Kaneohe Wahiawa (near Wheeler AAF) Pearl City
Kailua Waipahu

Apartment and Rental info for the area(s) is available on
www.Apartments.com www.Rent.com www.AreaGuides.net

On a flight attendant salary... how about a cardboard box underneath the lifeguard stands on the beach. Hey it's a beachfront view....
 

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On a flight attendant salary... how about a cardboard box underneath the lifeguard stands on the beach. Hey it's a beachfront view....

Just wondering but what do they manke over there?
 

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Maybe it will be for Hawaiian as they park all of their 717s and furlough a ton of pilots. No way something like that could ever happen. Isn't Hawaiian in contract negotiations?

And my sinister conspiracy theory of the new Delta acquiring 717s to replace the 9s is all coming together...
 

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I think it's going to be mokulele airlines. Friend of mine works there and hinted to me something about this!
 

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I think it's going to be mokulele airlines. Friend of mine works there and hinted to me something about this!

hasn't it already been proven that the islands can only support 2 carriers?

What is with our inherent ego-driven capitalistic corporate raiders that think they can just start an airline when there's already 200 airlines around?

The industry was so much better when there were just 8 of the around. Isn't 8 enough of a choice?
 

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The owner at mokulele has always wanted bigger planes, and he already has a couple of them sitting somewhere. The only reason that they need RAH is because Mokulele only has a 135 cert.

Beware RAH pilots when he does get the 121 cert done he won't need you guys anymore. Just a heads up!
 

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Hawaiian's loads are down, go! is barely 10 percent of the market with light loads. Clearly, the jets are losing money. If Mokulele smells blood with Mesa on the ropes, they could try a interisland operation, but it's a rough time to start an airline and even if it were to get ALL of go!'s business, there is no way that operation would work.

Hawaiian has successfully resisted outsourcing it's interisland operations and will fight it to the death so where are the pax going to come from?
 

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Hawaiian's loads are down, go! is barely 10 percent of the market with light loads. Clearly, the jets are losing money. If Mokulele smells blood with Mesa on the ropes, they could try a interisland operation, but it's a rough time to start an airline and even if it were to get ALL of go!'s business, there is no way that operation would work.

Hawaiian has successfully resisted outsourcing it's interisland operations and will fight it to the death so where are the pax going to come from?

So why is Hawaiian flying 767s interisland? I don't think they would do that with light loads. They were flying 2-4 flights a day from OGG to HNL, and they were not connections to or from the mainland.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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So why is Hawaiian flying 767s interisland? I don't think they would do that with light loads. They were flying 2-4 flights a day from OGG to HNL, and they were not connections to or from the mainland.


Bye Bye--General Lee

My understanding is they stopped that. They only flew the 767 to Maui to preserve market share until their 717's arrived but the slow down in tourism halted the need for that. They also added service for another 767 to the mainland - Oakland I think.

The first 717 should be online soon unless it's already flying and the remainder should arrive before the end of the year.

The costs of flying the 767 to and from OGG must have been huge.
 
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Anyone hear any rumors about Allegiant joining the Hawaii market. A friend of mine at Allegiant came up with that one.
 
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