"Up or Out" Policies?

[Bluto]

How many regionals out there have up or out policies? Do they have them at ASA, Comair, or Expressjet for example?

 

[vclean]

AE used to, maybe still. Not to worry, you have plenty of time before that will be a concern.

 

[Bluto]

Um, ok....? I guess you're right...it'll be a long time before I upgrade at Eagle...?? Maybe I should have been more specific. For the airlines that do have them, are these policies used routinely?

 

[210FR8DOG]

I don't think we have that at TSA. Our #1 FO on the jet has a VERY low employee number. About the top 30 FOs have higher seniority than a lot of Captains. There may be some "pressure" to upgrade depending on who you are and the current politics, but no policy that I am aware of. We don't have to worry about it for a while either.

 

[trip]

SKYW-up or your out.

 

[Towelie]

No such animal at Mesaba.

We have an Avro F/O in MSP senior enough to hold Avro Capt in MSP. His wife has a good job and he gets a better schedule that way. To each their own, I guess.

Personally, I don't see why the airline should care. Cheaper for you to be an F/O than Capt anyway. Just my $0.02 worth.

 

[Bako Cap]

At SkyWest you can be an FO as long as you want. There are a couple of FO's with about 10 years seniority. Heck, we even have a downgrade program, though it sets you up for a two year seat lock.

Trip,

I think the policy you are thinking about is if an FO cannot upgrade to captain (cuz the pilot sucks and blows at least a couple of chances during training) they are terminated. Very rare.

 

[shamrock]

ASA has no such policy. We have some very senior FOs.

 

[FlyChicaga]

Not at ExpressJet.

 

[Ty Webb]

At AirTran, you certainly don't have to upgrade, but fail upgrade three times and you're out on your ear. . . and yes, it does happen from time to time.