Unlimited Jumpseaters

[flight-crew]

Off hand, which airlines allow unlimited jumpseaters?

(i.e.- they will fill up the empty cabin seats with jumpseaters)

 

[ifly4food]

Most regionals extend this privillege. ASA, Comair, Mesaba, ACA, Express I/Airlink, Air Wisconsin, Skywest come to mind, but there are others too.
Also, some nationals offer it. Airtran, ATA, Spirit, jetBlue come to mind.
Most majors don't offer this. Not sure about Southwest though.

 

[bigboy]

I think America west and Natoinal airlines offers unlimited jumpseating ,Im sure they do but not 100%sure .

 

[Anaconda]

COMAIR is not on the list, per the latest security directive...

 

[ifly4food]

COMAIR is not on the list, per the latest security directive...

Sorry but I work for Delta Connection and Comair IS on the list. Maybe your list is old.

 

[Anaconda]

Apology Accepted

I work for "Delta Connection" too. In fact, I work at the airline in question, so maybe your list is old...

"Delta Connection" means a number of airlines as obviously you are aware. I know that other "Delta Connection" carriers (in fact, I heard on our ALPA board that ALL of them but us) are allowing more than one jumpseater, but that is not the case at Comair. The security directive I am referencing is dated 12/04/01 and unless it has been updated since the last time I worked, which was the 22nd, it is still in effect. I am speaking only of other airline pilots by the way, not Delta, ASA, or Comair. We can non-rev anyway, unlimited #'s. I can also PM you a longer dissertation on the subject if you are interested. Here is the section I'm referring to:

OTHER AIRLINE PILOTS

Comair will allow pilots from other airlines (OAL) in uniform with reciprocal agreements to occupy a seat in the cabin using existing jumpseat procedures, if at departure time the jumpseat remains open, all revenue and non-revenue passangers are accommodated, and a cabin seat remains open.

An OAL carrier is defined as any carrier on the Comair reciprocal list other than Delta or ASA.

Anytime the jumpseat is occupied even if a seat remains open in the cabin, the OAL pilot WILL NOT be eligible to fly as a jumpseat rider, nor can he/she elect to travel as a pass rider at departure time...




As for Southwest, last time I jumped on them a couple of weeks ago I was told they were limited to the number of jumpseats in the aircraft...

 

[George Zip]

Champion Air allows unlimited jumpseaters (in the cabin for now, of course). When everyone gets cockpit access again, we have 2 jumpseats in the cockpit, plus all empty seats in the back.

Champion runs flights from MSP, DTW, and DFW to Las Vegas, Florida, and all over the Caribbean and Mexico. Also a bunch of routes between the midwest and Las Vegas.

To get flight schedules go to the website - I think it's www.championair.com

 

[Freight Dog]

Add Hawaiian, Ryan Int'l (to my knowledge) and ATA of the majors to the list of multiple jumpseaters.

Of the regionals, we take as many as there are seats in the back at Aloha Island Air.

 

[njcapt]

Vanguard accepts multiple jump seaters from 121 and 135 carriers up to the limit of cabin seats. Be prepared to show a lot of ID and a friendly quiz on the aircraft you fly. If you're on my aircraft, I'll be honored to speak with the A Flight Attendant and get you a seat in Business Class (MD-80's only).

With the changes in jump seat rules, Southwest revoked the multiple jump seat authority they had with ATA, America West, Horizon, and I believe Alaska. In other words, max jump seaters equals number of installed jump seats.

 

[ifly4food]

Anaconda,
I guess my list is old then. I stand corrected.
That's unfortunate that ASA and Delta can offer you unlimited jumpseats without a uniform but you can't reciprocate. Any idea why? After all, Comair and ASA don't make these rules, Delta does.

 

[Twotter76]

At Era Aviation we still will take as many as weigh and seats permit. In fact I did a flight the other day with 3 revenue, 4 non-revs and a jumpseater. Cant offer you a business seat though

 

[AWACoff]

The last I heard post 9/11 was that AWAC only allowed 2 jumpseaters in back (offline). That may have changed but I haven't heard anything about it and I keep my nose in things.

 

[Anaconda]

Delta Connection

ifly4food...i don't know what the reason for this policy is. according to a message from a ground instructor on our ALPA message board, the intent is partly due to comair's desire to mirror big daddy delta and their policies. i have not jumpseated on delta, i don't specifically know but have been told they only allow jumpseaters equal to the number of jumpseats on the aircraft, whether those jumpseats are occupied or not. do you know different?

obviously there is a big difference between DAL and it's connection carriers, including the wholly-owned. let's hope it gets clarified soon, with positive results.

 

[ifly4food]

Yeah... Delta only takes as many as there are cockpit seats. I guess I've been doing too many standups lately! I couldn't even tell you what day of the week it is, so I guess I'm a little unreliable for nformation right now.

I can see Comair trying to move toward Delta's policies. ASA is moving in that direction too, especially after our contract is settled. I think Sieb's departure will increase this trend.

 

[ScRaMJeT]

Northwest Airlines

Northwest allows 2 company and 2 non company.

But be careful of the gate agents though, some of them are nuckleheads and will tell you that the flight is full when there are still 2 cockpit jumpseats available, and there are pilots who could easily go upfront. Be friendly to the Northwest pilots so they will want to give you there seat in the cabin.

 

[ifly4food]

In my jumpseat experience on NW, I've had to remind the gate agents EVERY TIME that they can now take 2. Once I even had to grab a NW pilot to prove it for me. Usually when they figure it out I get a "oh yeah" or some half hearted excuse. It's like they know but don't want to let us have it. According to the same agents, all jumpseaters now get "random" searches too (it's not really random if everyone gets one is it?), so be ready to get harassed by the agents if you jump Northwest.

 

[1900laker]

Northwest jumpseating,

Also depends on where you are jumping out of. Out of the hubs the agents seem to know a lot more about the current policy, but not always. I carry a copy of the bulletin around with me so that I can show those agents who still don't know or are confused. But you are right, the dissemination of this info to the gate agents is apparently last on the priority list at Northwest. Always have a great time jumping on them however. No big complaints and they are my primary way to get to work. Thanks Northwest.

 

[treetop flyer]

I agree...Northwest has always given me a great ride to and from work...great people.

Also, Horizon Air will fill the plane with offline jumpseaters....

TF

 

[XJAVRO]

I always get a great ride on NWA, yeah right. They treat everyone good, except for those of us that fly with a red tail. I always try to jump on other carriers. If it's not the gate agents, then the FA's treat us like crap. The pilots on NWA are the only ones nice to us

I was jumping home the other day, said hi to the lead. She said "OH Mesaba we don't like you poeple!"

 

[TurboS7]

Fly on our airline on a positioning flight and we can take 173. The only problem is that you will have to self-brief and make your own coffee. The reason being that you'll have 5 F/A's that are very upset as they won't be able to sleep. So much for those exciting positioning legs with a big airplane.