United

[f9driver]

Otto

Yup. Everybody knew Otto in the IGS.

 

[f9driver]

Pan Am Berlin Shuttle

I don't know if anyone is interested but the corridors out of Berlin were limited to a max altitude of 10,000'. They were only 10 miles wide and you could not deviate out of them for wx. Most of the time they were flown on the "barborpole"...... fuel was cheap. If you liked being a cowboy or maybe wanted to act like a SWA hotshot F/O you bid Berlin. lol

 

[skirt]

Yep,

Having spent a good part of my life in Germany, I had my eye on that PanAm Berlin operation as my dream job. Alas, the base closed before I could get there, and not too much later PanAm went under. I hear it was some of the most fun flying in Europe, and a great bunch of guys.


Skirt

 

[greyhound]

O.K. I'll ask.......

I see $367 million loss.......
But something about a 90 million profit?
Which one is it?

 

[canyonblue]

Re: SWA F/O's

I don't think any Superman SW F/O could have been ready for take-off right after start in that 1960's designed Boeing pig. lol

Just like watching an antiquated Captain watch as the FMS is set up, the PFD has the Class B rings inserted and the SE procedure and I got ATIS, clearence, realigned the IRS, set the MCP and set the comm and nav radios all in a 8 minute turn. Let me help ya by hangin up the Handicap card on your mirror. Doing it in the -200 takes away alot of those steps pops. I know, I've done it.

 

[crashpad]

.....all in a 8 minute turn. [qoute]

That's about average Huckleberry, but maybe you should slow down some more...

 

[Steeler Fan]

On-time???

I don't see people paying more $$$ for tickets on someone else because SWA is on-time ONLY 82% of the time...
BTW, TWA had a GREAT on-time% (and their flight crew members were some of coolest people I've ever met), but, UNFORTUNATELY, a great on-time record does not guarantee more profitability than the competition...Being at the bottom all the time is not good either...


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Originally posted by Mugs
Tell us all about SWA's on time :14 stats after they get fleet-wide ACARS. Until then, who cares.
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How the hell does ACARS ruin your on-time arrival times? After all the DOT measures on-time within :14 minutes. If your airline can't get to the gate within :14 of scheduled arrival at least 7 out of 10 times, then maybe you need to focus on why the hell not. ACARS won't do crap to SWA's ontime DOT stats. I can't believe people post things like this. Are these people really flying for an Airline?
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I respectfully disagree...ACARS will, to some degree, affect on-time, and yes, I am flying an Airline--my second (hopefully my last!)

I think Philly will pose some SIGNIFICANT on-time challenges (unless SWA pads its scheduled block times to maintain schedule integrity)...In places like PHL, ATL, ORD, DFW, there are simply too many other factors that are out of your control...especially if you look at how inaccessible the alleys are in Philly.

In terms of ACARS, I've flown with them at U, and I have personnally seen situations where we actually pulled into the gate on-time, but ACARS did not capture the time because it's time is based on some kind of triggering event (like cargo or entry door opening) then a delay in the computer capturing/creating your "IN" time...This can easily mean the difference between scheduled +14 and scheduled +15...

I believe you'll find Philly a frustrating place to operate out of, but you'll be full most of time!

 

[hankhill]

Steeler Fan Statement

I love it when a writer can cut through the crap and convey the essence of an idea with a minimum number of words.

Steeler Fan said:

"I believe you'll find Philly a frustrating place to operate out of, but you'll be full most of time!"

Of course there will be delays in PHL. Southwest already sees delays in Vegas, Chicago, and BWI, it's just the nature of the beast in those cities.

In 1994 I vividly remember listening to a fellow crewmember in the PIT Crewroom talk about how the East Coast is a different world, and how difficult Southwest will find it to operate here with the adverse weather, traffic congestion, and weak labor pool.

Flash forward to 2003 and and I think it's safe to say that SWA has found a way to overcome those concerns.

There's a mountain of cash to be made in Philly. Now's the time for Southwest to step in and stake a claim before another LCC beats them to the punch.

I've flown for US Air and one of its affilliates that serve Philly for a while now and I continue to experience the frustration and dismay that's an integral part of the "Philly Factor."

Nonetheless, if you're in business for the long haul you overlook the occasional bad attitude, from customers and employees alike, the never-ending delays due to weather and traffic congestion, and you smile and do the best that you can with what you have, and you help your company laugh all the way to the bank.

There may be some truth to the commonly expressed axiom, "Philly sucks," but I'll deal with something that sucks if it helps the company's bottom line and puts food in my family's collective mouth.

Five, ten, and twenty years from now this will be seen as an astute move.

Just my opinion, don't mark my words, I can barely remember where I was, or even what I ate yesterday. And to show you how little you should value my words, I'm also a life-long die-hard Steelers fan.

 

[calfo]

Eastcoast flying is more than PVD, Islip, Manchester, et al. PHL is really sticking their necks out - performance-wise. You don't see SWA in the big markets along the eastern seaboard - and they don't have to - they make their own markets from other places. Boeing recommends a taxi speed of no more than 20 kts. That's for tire and brake heat - they better hope they don't blow one 10 knots before V1 in Vegas off of 19L on the way to MDW. Taxiing that fast is foolhardy at best.

 

[StopNTSing]

Ah yes, good luck to you guys if you think you'll pull 7 out of 10 consistently month to month in PHL, especially with old man winter coming. It ain't like landing in HRL with a 10 knot tailwind so you can turn off right to the gate.

Where in this thread are you reading that SWA thinks they will "pull 7 out of 10" (WTF is that anyway?) specifically in PHL? What I'm hearing from the GO is aircraft flows specifically for PHL to minimize down-line effects of the inevitable PHL delays (which everyone knows we will experience...this ain't our first rodeo, after all).

As for UAL, when their customer complaints ranking finally gets out of the cellar, that would seem to me the strongest indication that the operation has indeed turned around.

 

[Ty Webb]

Good thing for UAL the bankruptcy court is located in Illinois... I can't wait to see Starfish kicking Southwest's, Jetblue's, AirTran's, Song's and Frontier's collective ar$es... Good luck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


This is about the funniest string I have read on this board in many a month.


UAL lost another $336 million this quarter, blaming most of it, once again, on "one-time occurances . . .related to its ongoing Bankruptcy . . . .".

Give me a break. The "naysayers" haven't been "silenced", we have just tried to show a little respect for the dead.

Actually, I stopped posting the negatives about UAL a while ago, simpy because it wasn't sporting, but since you asked for it- turn out the lights, the party's over.

 

[skykid]

Ty, I'm sure you realize Heavy Set was being facetious with those remarks. If you thought he was serious you are slipping, and that's hard for me to watch. You're one of the few that brings some substance with the pithy comments. Heres what Heavy Set said awhile ago...

From Heavy Set
True - how can UAL survive if it continues to lose $600+ mil per quarter (with Gov't aid) - especially with the disasterous Fall quarter approaching? It's gonna be a blood bath....

Well, made it through the yearly disaster that is Fall. Here's what you said about October on Aug 20th...

From Ty Webb
Because UAL employees still don't seem to get it- the fact that if you don;t make money by October (fat chance, indeed) you are out of the bankruptcy business, and I don;t mean in a good way, either.

The numbers for October wont be announced for another 3 weeks, but they did say they will meet the DIP requirements for October. The best news lately for UAL and a lot of other companies with traditional pensions plans comes from Washington. Two Senate committees have separate bills which when reconciled will provide relief from short term pension funding. Also, UAL has to account for every penny in court once a month. Bankruptcy is expensive! They can't shift numbers around to hide operating losses. Operating profit for the quarter was 19mil. Unit revenue was up 12%, which is outpacing the industry, and UAL leads the 6 biggest carriers again in on time performance for the year. Take care.

 

[nimtz]

Where in this thread are you reading that SWA thinks they will "pull 7 out of 10" (WTF is that anyway?) specifically in PHL? What I'm hearing from the GO is aircraft flows specifically for PHL to minimize down-line effects of the inevitable PHL delays (which everyone knows we will experience...this ain't our first rodeo, after all).

Read your coworker's post then involve yourself in the conversation genius. Canyonblue said "If your airline can't get to the gate within :14 of scheduled arrival at least 7 out of 10 times, then maybe you need to focus on why the hell not." Understand the 7 out of 10 remark now! Easy to taxi to the gate in BWI, not so good in PHL.

True this ain't your first rodeo, but PHL is a whole different beast then anything else you've had yet. I'm sure SWA will make money and probably end up killing US Air, but for the whole company it creates a challenging shift in strategy. I think they would of better off in ABE.