United Training Pilots to Use Stun Guns

[skykid]

Tasers

Whatever was used in that MSNBC report IS NOT what UAL has. Moving forward while you are getting zapped is IMPOSSIBLE. You don't have to wait for a Taser to charge back up unless you have just fired the thing about 100 times. You don't have to be barechested - saw footage of people being knocked on their butts with all different sorts of clothes on, including a bulletproof vest. UAL autolanded an A319 several times while Tasers were being fired all over the thing, including the instrument panel. There's lots of misinformation out there. Are Tasers going to be 100% effective in every situation? Of course not. Neither will hanguns or Federal Air Marshalls. Its a good step in the right direction.

 

[FR8mastr]

Those idiot cops zapped Rodney King 4 or 5 times with a tazer, sure didnt slow him down much. If it had actually knocked him down and incapacitated him the idiot cops would not have had the chance to beat the guy so badly therby preventing the trial and the riots and all the fun that went with that. Yea tazers that's the answer, especially knowing the terrorist work in groups of 5. Also knowing that I bet you that a dead or badly wounded flight attendant will preceed the scum terrorist into the cockpit so your PC tazer will just zap her. Or one of the volunteer terrorist will just go in fast and take the zap freeing up his buddies to finish the crew. You need to get real!!! deadly force is needed to counter deadly force. Or maybe we could just talk to them and try to understand their plight, they will then see the light and just give up. I'm sure Jihad abdul thinks its great that we infidels are so concerned with their well being. Without the use of deadly force either the terrorists or the government with the F-16 will make sure everyone on the aircraft is finished.

 

[DairyAir]

Tasers

For those of you who have said that tasers are worthless and would not stop somebody are to put it simply, wrong. During an altercation at a club a friend of mine was trying to hold back some guy from trying to pummel another guy, the police showed up and during the fight one of the officers shot a taser at the guy my friend was holding back. These were two pretty large guys who had been drinking for a while and pretty charged up with adrenaline, the taser knocked both of them flat instantly, and it was sometime before thay got up again. Say what you want about the taser but it works and anything is better than nothing. Do some research on the particular taser we are all talking about and I think you will be surprised at what you find. If you are still not a believer then I will be happy to fire one at you and see how long you stay standing.

P.S. It doesn't matter how thick your clothing is, it doesn't work that way.

 

[AWACoff]

What if the clothing you are wearing is non-conductive? I'm not a brain surgeon (or whatever they call those guys that play with volts and amps) but it wouldn't be too hard to wear rubber clothing. Heck, my girlfriend just had some on the other nig....Um, anyways, what about rubber clothing? If we can think of it, somebody else can too.

Just my opinion and a bread san'wich (unemployment just ran out...no money for cheese)

 

[DairyAir]

The way the taser works is it shoots two probes with barbs at the target. these probes stick into the trgets skin clothes or whatever and the electrical charge is provided between the two probes, not directly into the skin. It was designed to spread the probes about twelve inches before impact which essentially provides a foot long bolt of energy arcing between two points on someones body. I do know that they have been tested with up to four inches of clothing including leather and the taser has lost very little of its effectiveness. As far as rubber clothes your guess is as good as mine but I doubt something like a wet suit would help much. I was as skeptical as everyone else is until I saw it in action and spoke with people who use them often I.E. police officers. I am a believer at least until something better comes along.

see ya

Sorry AWACOFF but I just ran out of cheesecurd

 

[jlarocca]

arm our pilots

Ok, so the tazer slows down one guy (which I don't think it will). What about the other 4 or more terrorists on the airplane? If you are a terrorist and you know that there are only tazers on the flight deck, will that make you think twice about trying to hijack an airplane? No, it will just make you wear another layer of clothing! Tazers are a way for Washington to weasel out of a tough position. ARM OUR PILOTS with a weapon that will STOP a terrorist! We all know that these people will stop at nothing. They have a "religious" mission to complete so they can be with their "70 virgins in heaven." If people are worried that a gun may accidentally discharge, hit the wrong person, or puncture the pressure vessel then tell these people that one life lost is much better than 3000 lives and a national landmark. A hole in the side of an airplane does not mean the aircraft is unflyable or unlandable. I think that a terrorist will surely think twice about hijacking an airplane if they know that they may be stopped from completing their mission and be killed in the process. I bet you don't get ANY virgins if you die without taking anybody with you. Ok, so I rambled on for way too long, but now you know how I feel. Give our pilots a fighting chance. A crash ax and a tazer won't do it. And reinforced doors are nice, but pilots still have to use the bathroom and eat.

I hope washington wakes up and soon!