United - Profit!

[koko nw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DH2WN
Yep. Thanks for sticking it back in.



Hope you don't say that to all the guys. You can go back to hating UAL
now.


Okay, now that was freaken hilarious

 

[Andy]

HA!! HA!!! Little man complexes? Whatever... If you think UAL employees aren't the laziest people in the industry then you need to jumpseat offline and see the real world that has put your feeble airline in it's place.

I cannot count how many times in DTW there were 15-20 mechanics sitting around picking their noses instead of marshalling us out like they were overpaid to do. Sometimes we waited 30 minutes so they can walk 8 feet and wave us off. Or the UAL ramp in PIT who would never put the carryons on the plane then would bitch when we did it ourselves because it's, "For the Union, man!!" Yep, great airline you have there.

Don't worry the government may lift the minimum wage level so you just might get a raise.

Sonny, I've jumpseated on many different carriers. My favorite was TWA. Prior to being hired at United, I'd either try for TWA or United, because they treated me great. I found myself treated worse as a jumpseater at United AFTER I was hired there; still OK, but not as well as when I flew for another company.
I've never had any problems jumpseating on any other carrier, but some (AMR stands out) would send me back to coach when there were open seats in First. Not always, but enough for me to avoid them. And while they were usually friendly, I avoided LUV like the plague; only when they were my last option would I take them, but I'm not real big on cattle cars.

As for DTW, that's not a hub city for UAL, so the pushback mechanics were likely contract workers.

I must say that it looks like WN's interview process is letting a few too many dirtbags on property; between you, SWA/FO, and a few others, I'd say that WN needs to review the process.

 

[DH2WN]

As for DTW, that's not a hub city for UAL, so the pushback mechanics were likely contract workers.

Continuing to make my point. Thank you.

 

[Marko Ramius]

Ye though the Hindu's speak of karma

Continuing to make my point. Thank you.

Are you related to the 'Sarge' from Airplane II???

 

[SWA/FO]

I must say that it looks like WN's interview process is letting a few too many dirtbags on property; between you, SWA/FO, and a few others, I'd say that WN needs to review the process.

Why you bring me into this? I love UAL. I hope UAL does well. I really don't care to much for Southwest Airlines.... all they do is pay my wages. I hope UAL does better then SWA, God knows they need all the help they can get, cus they have sucked for years.

The process at Southwest involves at least 1000 hours of PIC. A lot of folks hired at UAL in the late 90's didn't meet this requirement. I have a friend at UAL that has been there 10 years..... he doesn't even qualify to apply here at Southwest now. So that old question: Do you have what it takes to be a United Pilot? - makes me laugh.

You guys are victims of your own managemant, bad timing and WEAK union (I'm not claiming SWAPA is any better). Probably more of management and timing. Southwest is Southwest... our clients are still the same, last minute, vacation types. All your first class folks ran over to Flexjet/NetJets... my God they have over 500 airplanes at NetJets. Why don't you give them $hit? Nobody has figured this out, except the SWA/FO.

I remember how the UAL guys treated me when I was on the outside looking in. I have never treated anybody like that. Calling me a dirtbag, from a UAL stand point... that sounds good to me. I'd rather be a SWA dirtbag then a pilot for UAL, anyday. This is something I caught onto in the late 90's thankgod.

 

[Bosley]

I understand you being ashamed of flying for a no name airline like Valujettran. I would not admit it either. In fact I bet you get tired of having to explain to people who you actually fly for.

Sorry to dissapoint you madam 32, but I am not an Air Tran pilot! I do know several good folks working over there, and as far as "they're concerned," UAL is a laughing stock of the industry! I would be jealous too if I was making less than a 737 pilot flying a 747

As for retirement I appreciate your concern. But just so you don't have to worry. I have a 6 digit B-plan that is edging toward 7 with a little 200K being paid to me in the next couple of weeks. Combined with previous investments I think retirement is going to be ok. Speaking of defined plans, how much does Valujettran pay in DB's? Yep, the same amount I suppose.

Again, I don't know what Air Tran pays in DB's. I don't work there

Again, I understand you not wanting to admit you fly at that airline. With Forlift Joe and all the other questionable charachters working there you must have to pass a stingent test to make the cut. I won't ask if you don't tell.

And Goodwin has done such wonders huh? How about Wolfe? You crack me up! Keep taking your cheap shots. Its attitudes like your that is making the demise of your pathetic EEOC POS airline!
It just kills you that airlines can make money while yo nited can't. Not a bad job though, first profit for unicef inc. in 7 years. Who hoo! You girls rock! Hey 32, its ok, when UAL goes out of business, we'll see if we can get you a job driving the lav truck!

 

[Bosley]

Please read Bosley's comments regarding my company. I am only defending MY company and our future.

Is that what you call it when you attack the nice folks at Jet Blue and try to degrade their airline? Oh yeah, its just good rivalry. That's why for the last 5 years they have made money while Yo Nited has lost $$. Keep giving back concessions so your pathetic management team can collect their bonuses. If you keep working for your pathetic wages, nobody will ever be able to get a raise! Unicef Airlines, lowering the bar, one concession at a time!

If someone from Valujettran wishes to trash my company they better be willing to accept similar in return. Just like one of the original post in this thread said, this is just good rivalry. With the case of Valujettran it is a fun battle. A company that has been shuttered by the Feds for impropriety and various violations with a history in the dark corners of aviation claiming greatness is laughable at best. A company that was founded on the use of EAL scabs and scab labor with Pay for Training for its pilots.

And a company that today, has less scabs flying for it than "Yo Nited." I figured it out that you are one of them. Either that or a 300 hour wonder intern hired because of his daddy's pull!
How about those minimums to get hired at unicef inc? 300 hours, and a pulse. no wonder your company has had the privilege of hiring so many gifted aviators such as yourself! Lemme guess, you got hired with a shade over 500 hours! You are a pathetic ass!

There are so many good Valujet jokes, but I am afraid poor old bosley would not be able to handle them. He knows them just does not want to hear them.

Joke away intern boy! i don't work for Air Tran. But I guarentee, there aren't nearly as many as Unicef/Yo nited inc!

 

[IB6 UB9]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 32LT10
Please read Bosley's comments regarding my company. I am only defending MY company and our future.

"Is that what you call it when you attack the nice folks at Jet Blue and try to degrade their airline? Oh yeah, its just good rivalry."


Bosley, you beat me to it. Congrats to all who are posting profits. 32, you are a disgrace. Go away.

 

[canyonblue]

The process at Southwest involves at least 1000 hours of PIC.

It's 1300 now my brother!

 

[canyonblue]

I must say that it looks like WN's interview process is letting a few too many dirtbags on property; between you, SWA/FO, and a few others, I'd say that WN needs to review the process.

I wouldn't use a message board to base my overall opinion of a pilot group at any airline. I would however use the Terminal as a gauge, and prior to working at Southwest I noticed that they were one of the only pilot groups where the pilots would say hi or nod as you walked by. Even now it is sad how some other airline pilots don't acknowledge another pilot, and that is without any preconceived feelings. Pretty sad bunch of fellow pilots out there.

 

[walkthasky]

UAL still destroyed DH, HA HA

Now thats bad karma, and youre an A$$

 

[32LT10]

Again, I don't know what Air Tran pays in DB's. I don't work there


!

Bosley,

If you are so proud of where you work then why not share it? Or are you really on the outside looking in and just crying because you were a "never was".

Hey by the way I just made the pacific crossing with 4 white guys flying the plane. Can you believe it?

In the meantime keep you logbooks up to date. UAL may be hiring by the end of 07 and you can try again, and again and again. Of course it will not be your serious charachter flaws that get you pinked it will obviously be some bias against hiring nutjobs like yourself.

So run along and cry in your soup. The whole world really is out ot get you. Also is that your picture I saw on the People magazine cover this week? Was buying the Chronicle before departure and saw the headline and immediately thought of you.

 

[Scrapdog]

Bosley,

If you are so proud of where you work then why not share it? Or are you really on the outside looking in and just crying because you were a "never was".

Hey by the way I just made the pacific crossing with 4 white guys flying the plane. Can you believe it?

In the meantime keep you logbooks up to date. UAL may be hiring by the end of 07 and you can try again, and again and again. Of course it will not be your serious charachter flaws that get you pinked it will obviously be some bias against hiring nutjobs like yourself.

So run along and cry in your soup. The whole world really is out ot get you. Also is that your picture I saw on the People magazine cover this week? Was buying the Chronicle before departure and saw the headline and immediately thought of you.

Jesus christ dude, let it go...we all get it, you don't like bosley. Anyway, congrats again to UAL - hopefully most of the airlines are now starting to turn it around. I thought this was a thread about UAL. Three guys in my squadron fly for UAL and they're outstanding people as well as aviators. Moderators, please help us out here and stop this ridiculous babbling.

 

[Midge]

Jesus christ dude, let it go...we all get it, you don't like bosley. Anyway, congrats again to UAL - hopefully most of the airlines are now starting to turn it around. I thought this was a thread about UAL. Three guys in my squadron fly for UAL and they're outstanding people as well as aviators. Moderators, please help us out here and stop this ridiculous babbling.

Scrapdog, well said. 32LT10, if you are a UAL captain as you state, you sir, are a disgrace to this industry, and I hope I NEVER have to ride on an airplane with you as the pilot with all that anger!
Midge
Scraping the ice, one layer at a time!

 

[720persecond]

Jesus christ dude, let it go...we all get it, you don't like bosley. Anyway, congrats again to UAL - hopefully most of the airlines are now starting to turn it around. I thought this was a thread about UAL. Three guys in my squadron fly for UAL and they're outstanding people as well as aviators. Moderators, please help us out here and stop this ridiculous babbling.

32LT10 has a serious self-confidence problem... I know a lot of UAL pilots and none of them are so insecure...

 

[fatboyplt]

Wtf

Could some individuals of a business type please speculate as to why we did not make more money? Serious question. For christsakes AA, what 291 million, they are appox 35% larger than us. But look at the job AAL did, 315 million. Appox 35% smaller.. Than us at a paultry 119. WTF. No pensions just like AAL. AA still has pensions. I am still questioning the direction..

Birdman
BTV

 

[D-Bo]

Could some individuals of a business type please speculate as to why we did not make more money? Serious question. For christsakes AA, what 291 million, they are appox 35% larger than us. But look at the job AAL did, 315 million. Appox 35% smaller.. Than us at a paultry 119. WTF. No pensions just like AAL. AA still has pensions. I am still questioning the direction..

Birdman
BTV

Wait until tomorrow. More info will be available. I have heard that despite the $119 million number, cash on hand went up another $500 million to make a total of $5.2 Billion in cash.

 

[fatboyplt]

D-Bo
Thank you. I have seen your response on AW&ST this morning..Hopefully the trend can continue for US airlines large and small not just foreign carriers.

Birdman
BTV

 

[lowecur]

Could some individuals of a business type please speculate as to why we did not make more money? Serious question. For christsakes AA, what 291 million, they are appox 35% larger than us. But look at the job AAL did, 315 million. Appox 35% smaller.. Than us at a paultry 119. WTF. No pensions just like AAL. AA still has pensions. I am still questioning the direction..

Birdman
BTV

UAL has picked all the low hanging fruit..payroll, pensions, a/c leases, but needs to do more on the little things. I think their ORD operation needs streamlining. They have tried to be everything to everyone at that airport, and they need to rightsize to be more productive, ala AA at ORD. The problem is they don't want to give Jetblue a foothold at the airport. Philosophically speaking, when the next recession hits, it may be too late to right the ship.

The move away from TransAtlantic to China will help. They want to dominate this market from the States, and this should add bigger yields to the bottom line than Europe.

Merger would help considerably, especially with Continental. CAL has excellent mgt group, and would make the necessary changes for profitability.

imp:

 

[D-Bo]

UAL has picked all the low hanging fruit..payroll, pensions, a/c leases, but needs to do more on the little things. I think their ORD operation needs streamlining.
imp:

Downsizing isn't the answer to everything. What do you know about the ORD operation anyway? Where are the specific inefficiencies you're talking about? Do you have any info to back up your opinion? I'm not saying you're wrong. Things could definitely be run better. What you typed looked as if you're pulling sh*t out of your a** though. Tell me which areas of the operation you are talking about and why you think downsizing is the only way to make it run better.