united- mainline vs Express numbers- wow

[trip]

HOW would a group "take it back"?

I not looking for, "it will never happen", or "we gave it away in 20XX"...but honestly what would it take to get "it" back?

What about CAL, don't they own all (or most) of the ExpressJet airplanes? How could the CAL folks get some RJ flying into CAL?

It could start with a combined senority list.

 

[UALRATT]

I don't see "taking it back" ever happening...............not gonna see it. That ship has sailed.....I wish I were wrong but I challenge anyone to give me an example of someone "taking it back!"

Challenge accepted and it has "YOU" written all over it. Who else can it be ATR? Why are you waiting for "someone" dude? My challenge to you is to do your part! COLLECTIVELY it might work...

You are welcome...

March 17 - Schedule of events:
0945 – 1000 Meet in front of the United Building at 77 W. Wacker Drive

1000 – 1230 Informational picketing outside of the United Building/Board Meeting.

1230 – 1240 Tidy up and gather locally as desired.

Directions from ORD

Subway - Blue Line - Direction: Forest Park
Service run by Chicago Transit Authority - 1-888-YOURCTA

ETD --------DEP -------------ETE---- ---ETA------- DEST
8:46am ----Depart O'Hare--- 44 mins--- 9:30am--- Arrive Clark/Lake
Route Information - transitchicago.com

Walk to 77 West Wacker Drive, Chicago, IL 60601-1720 About 2 mins

1.Head north on N Clark St toward W Haddock 335 ft
2.Turn right at W Wacker Dr 187 ft
77 West Wacker Building
77 West Wacker Drive
Chicago, IL 60601-1720

You're also welcome to spread the word...

 

[waveflyer]

Finally-
get off the boards - and DO something about it.

Btw - that shouldn't be news-

Think about stage lengths- how many more departures are wrapped up in rjs than mainline flights- way more than half the to & landings are done by express-

And it's not just UAL- why you sellouts continue to b!tch and moan and walk around myopically confused about how mgmt got the better of you is beyond comprehension- especially for such self-proclaimed high achievers- really? Prove it you defeated pussies-
my resignation would have been in long before it ever got to that point- and if quitting wasn't a responsible choice in the short term- you better believe I'd be writing a letter a day to every media outlet and congressman in the country- and two to my peers scrapping and organizing to take it back- there wouldn't be a week that went by that I wouldn't have a picket sign up in ohare and downtown Chicago- -and only until the next job came along- there wouldn't be a day I wouldn't be updating applications for every job worth having corporate to fdx to Swa to Int'l carriers or semi stable contract work- get off your butts, or at least be quiet and admit to yourself and all of us exactly what you are- a sellout with NO INTEGRITY.
I can't stand how little action mainline pilots care to take- but it's typical of boomers- why get your own when you can rape the next generation and pretend it's what you've earned- more than glad to live off the foundation your parents laid- and when that's gobbled up- let your kids prop you up- bc you don't owe anyone anything do you?
Well how's that working out for you?

But hey - you're getting yours aren't you.... But are you?

 

[Mike man]

No, CAL leases them, THEN subleases then to XJT.

So they own the lease...thanks for the help.

Like I was saying doesn't CAL own (or hold the lease) the ExpressJet airplanes?

 

[bluefin]

Where is ALPA? OOOOOOOOOOOOOh ya most of this work is being farmed out to other union carriers, so its ok. Chuck ALPA. I know they can't prevent much, but I would at least like to hear them say something about it or help alpa brothers and sisters get jobs at other "UNION" carriers.

 

[Ad Lib]

At the risk of making various folks angry, again, I understand the "take it back" idea, concept, movement, etc...with that said:

How does a pilot group actually "take it back" to have it and keep?

Restore ALPA's merger and fragmentation policy. Then shut the barn door.

 

[jonjuan]

Restore ALPA's merger and fragmentation policy. Then shut the barn door.

But what if there are 9 other wide open doors on the barn?

 

[Draginass]

ALPA has become management's poodle. Maybe UAL and DAL mainline ALPA can grow some man-berries and stop selling the soul of the profession. I'm not optimistic, however, as long as the senior mainline pilots can extract a few extra bucks by prostituting their contracts for a few extra bucks before they retire at 65.

 

[UALRATT]

Challenge accepted and it has "YOU" written all over it. Who else can it be ATR? Why are you waiting for "someone" dude? My challenge to you is to do your part! COLLECTIVELY it might work...

You are welcome...

March 17 - Schedule of events:
0945 – 1000 Meet in front of the United Building at 77 W. Wacker Drive

1000 – 1230 Informational picketing outside of the United Building/Board Meeting.

1230 – 1240 Tidy up and gather locally as desired.

Directions from ORD

Subway - Blue Line - Direction: Forest Park
Service run by Chicago Transit Authority - 1-888-YOURCTA

ETD --------DEP -------------ETE---- ---ETA------- DEST
8:46am ----Depart O'Hare--- 44 mins--- 9:30am--- Arrive Clark/Lake
Route Information - transitchicago.com

Walk to 77 West Wacker Drive, Chicago, IL 60601-1720 About 2 mins

1.Head north on N Clark St toward W Haddock 335 ft
2.Turn right at W Wacker Dr 187 ft
77 West Wacker Building
77 West Wacker Drive
Chicago, IL 60601-1720

You're also welcome to spread the word...

Folks, RSVP to [email protected] so that they can plan accordingly and contact you if there are last minute items needed to communicate.

All are welcome to participate and show solidarity (when's the last time you've seen that word).

 

[UALRATT]

Airline Affiliates and Impact to Mainline
March 5, 2010 was the last update for this page.
Over the past few years legacy airlines have increased capacity and revenue by contracting with regional type airlines operating primarily smaller jets [under 70 seats]. These "contracts" are known as "capacity purchase agreements".

In addition to capacity purchase agreements, American, Delta, and USAir also operate their own regional jet carriers.

Tables below provide the affiliate impact for the airlines covered by this website since year 2003. A summary of each airlines regional affiliation is provided below the table.

Graphs provide side-by-side comparisons for selected metrics.

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[1] Fleet includes owned and operated jets per SEC filings.
[2] Consolidated includes mainline and affiliate.
[3] Revenue is from Capacity Purchase Agreements and Contracted fees.
[4] Affiliate expense includes all known costs attributed to affiliates and owned subsidiaries.
[5] Excludes special and one time charges.
[6] Does not include props.

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