United losing 8 747s to creditors?

[skykid]

Roman, that is an excellent post, and for people who are actually capable of looking at a situation from someone elses perspective the only way to see the current situation.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

....It seems like a lot of people are taking satisfaction in past arrogances coming back to bite airlines

....Pan Am and TWA were the top dogs of the 1960's, The most profitable airline in 1979 was Braniff. USAir and Piedmont were two of the best airlines of the 1980's.....

Dan Roman has it right.

Non of us are humble enough, including me. To forget history makes us too arrogant.

IMHO, it is foolish to think your company is breaking the mold of boom and bust in the airline biz unless you have an ironclad reason. Haven't heard one yet. Every year is a new opportunity for another company to come in and beat you at your own game.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

The guys on this forum that wish United to die and hope all the United employee's fall by the wayside, have been SNORTING WAY TOO MUCH BOLIVIAN NASAL DUST!


Good luck to UAL I hope thing work out for us all!

"We been made Rico"

 

[EAP]

Wrong,

How easy it is for people to talk with out understanding history! The UAL guys started the B scale process with the Blue Skies Agreement and Dicky Ferris back in the early 80s.
AA

Negative.

The AA "B" scale was the first of it's kind ever when Crandall promised to double the airline size in exchange for it. In at least one deregulation tell all book, some AA captains were quoted (this is clearly here-say) that "anyone stupid enough to work for us at these wages deserves them." To Crandal's credit, he did double the airline size though, at least he was honest - as was not the case with Dick Ferris. When UAL pilots went along with the new B scale, they did so after "B" scale already was in operation elesewhere and only for a defined period of time with an expiration, while the AA B scale was a "forever and ever" deal as "originally written".

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Wrong,

How easy it is for people to talk with out understanding history! The UAL guys started the B scale process with the Blue Skies Agreement and Dicky Ferris back in the early 80s.

Amazing ALPA pilot do not remember ALPA history, go ahead and blame APA.
I love that excuse," let's see how far you sink in BK." Well ok, how about we undercut your wages when we go into BK.

You UAL guys are something else, walking around with your nose in the air after your 2000 contract, looking down on everybody else. Telling the old TWA guys their airline should go out of business because they were dragging down the industry, now all types of pathetic excuses of where your contract is, and lastely UAL guys throwing out the "B scale comment" when they actually strarted it with Blue Skies.

And some of your guys have the b@lls to tell JetBlue pilots they can't sit on your jumpseat because they are destroying the industry. Talk about calling the kettle black.

AA

AA kiddie,

You are way off base, AA started the B scale. Go back to your text books kid. Sorry UAL turned you down, and sorry you had to hold all that envy in with our C2000 rates...Somebody had to raise the bar, and it sure wasn't the "Friends Of Cecil"

Did you buy a house from ol' Cecil's wife? Just how much time do you have in the Stearman? One whole HOUR! wow!

 

[skykid]

From AAFlyer

ORD is now losing money for AA because of your ridiculous fares, and to add insult to injury only one these companies actually pays for operating out of ORD, do want to guess which airline it is?

From bizjournal.com



United Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Continental Airlines and US Airways have all posted increases of $5 to $10 each day on most domestic flights, citing jet fuel expenses. Northwest Airlines and American Airlines said Thursday night only that they were studying the increases. Typically such increases are rescinded on Monday or Tuesday if they are not widely matched by the end of the weekend.