United jumpseat restrictions

[OzBushWhacker]

Heard through the grapevine that United is only permitting united mainline and united express pilots in their cockpits.

Can anyone verify this?

 

[Fly2AK]

I haven't heard any such thing.

 

[145BOSS]

Just rode on them last week, so unless something changed over the weekend I think they are taking everyone.

 

[Shrek]

Heard through the grapevine that United is only permitting united mainline and united express pilots in their cockpits.

Can anyone verify this?

Crappy grapevine you got.

 

[Atccfi]

how about international? I had heard that on the 76 if there is an iro and since he is occupying the Jumpseat you can't even go in the back.... any truth to that? I know as an OAL you could never go in the JS intl, but just wondering about in the back...

 

[reepicheep]

If true they could forget about riding in anyone else's cockpit so I highly doubt they'd condone such nonsense.

 

[stillflyn]

how about international? I had heard that on the 76 if there is an iro and since he is occupying the Jumpseat you can't even go in the back.... any truth to that? I know as an OAL you could never go in the JS intl, but just wondering about in the back...

There are two jumpseats on the 767.

 

[Fly2AK]

UAL has unlimited jumpseats and everyone that believes otherwise, needs to get a different set of beliefs. Should be end of story but for some reason someone else is going to say "well I heard blah blah blah" Any questions?

 

[twebb]

I work for Air Cargo Carriers and was denied jumpseat with United twice. We have cass with them, but apparently their computers don't pull up our airline, we can fly standby just fine, but our tickets don't print out "cockpit access approved" so the captains couldn't let us on because the FOM says it should say cockpit access approved. My question is, does the United FOM say what companies are approved, and is ACC listed?

 

[Minimaniac]

I work for Air Cargo Carriers and was denied jumpseat with United twice. We have cass with them, but apparently their computers don't pull up our airline, we can fly standby just fine, but our tickets don't print out "cockpit access approved" so the captains couldn't let us on because the FOM says it should say cockpit access approved. My question is, does the United FOM say what companies are approved, and is ACC listed?

I have a friend at USAJet that has similar problems. I believe the issue was that the cargo/135 operators have a three letter CASS code. Airline reservation computers are generally only able to accept a two letter CASS code, hence the denial. It is a crummy deal, but I don't know how it is going to get fixed. Try printing out a CASS verification page for yourself and carrying it with you. You may at least convince the captain.

 

[upndsky]

NOTE: this is based on a November 07 email exchange I had with the UAL jumpseat committee when I was the jumpseat coordinator at my previous airline so it may have changed.

On international flights, UAL will only take as many OAL jumpseaters as there are physical jumpseats in the cockpit. IOW, if the airplane has 2 jumpseats, they'll only take 2 OAL jumpseaters, regardless of how much room is in the back. And OALs must sit in the cabin. TSA does not allow OAL jumpseaters in the cockpit on international flights. IROs do not count against this number.

Domestically, they'll take unlimited.

Again, this may have changed recently. Your best bet is to contact your own jumpseat coordinator for the latest information.

 

[eaglesview]

Heard through the grapevine that United is only permitting united mainline and united express pilots in their cockpits.

Can anyone verify this?

That's a bunch of crap. I had offline on the jumpseat less than 12 hours ago.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Unfortunately, that is the case in Las Vegas. They WILL NOT take offline pilots in the cockpit. They claim they don't have CASS, although everyone uses the same computer system in Vegas.

 

[eaglesview]

Unfortunately, that is the case in Las Vegas. They WILL NOT take offline pilots in the cockpit. They claim they don't have CASS, although everyone uses the same computer system in Vegas.

LAS is a special case. Some of the airlines,UAL included, are provided computer systems from the county that they control. In Vegas there is no CASS available at UAL. I was denied cockpit access at DAL out of vegas but was able to get on AA in the cockpit. I don't really know why only some airlines have that problem in Vegas.

 

[climb2slow]

To second the LAS problem, Frontier is in the same boat as far as having CASS at the gate. You can CASS at the ticket counter and then head through security, but no CASS at the gate.