Uniform survey is live!

[sunlitpath]

Orville and Wilbur, supersonic flight, and the day hats became optional at ASA/ExpressJet. Today is a monumental day in aviation history; the hat is dead, praise God...

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Orville and Wilbur, supersonic flight, and the day hats became optional at ASA/ExpressJet. Today is a monumental day in aviation history; the hat is dead, praise God...

Amen!

 

[centralpilot]

Seriously, does every company memo need a companion post on FI? Hats were never going to be required for economic reasons, but go ahead and enjoy the illusion that it was our choice.

 

[Abernathy]

Funny, I just had to spend some time in MSP. All the Delta mainline guys wear hats. All the commuter pilots slack around with no hats. Guess which group looks more professional?

Let's see, bunch of middle aged gray haired white dudes vs a bunch of severely underpaid sleep deprived twenty-somethings carrying lunchboxes because they can't afford Wendy's 9 times a trip, and you think the hat is what's making the difference?

 

[Fubijaakr]

Well, its all about public perception. Wear your uniform with pride, including the hat, and the passengers feel comfortable. Slouch around with no hat, no tie, iPod and you look like a dork.

 

[RJLoser]

A Woody woodpecker avatar is what makes one look like a dork

 

[IBNAV8R]

Well, its all about public perception. Wear your uniform with pride, including the hat, and the passengers feel comfortable. Slouch around with no hat, no tie, iPod and you look like a dork.

You imply their is no middle ground between d-bag and dork.


While I agree it is vital that we all look professional, if hats truly made the difference in public opinion, TSA would be wearing them.

 

[Fubijaakr]

A Woody woodpecker avatar is what makes one look like a dork

You obviously are unaware of what Woody represents. I attribute that to your youth.

While I agree it is vital that we all look professional, if hats truly made the difference in public opinion, TSA would be wearing them.

You think the public views TSA as professional? Really?

 

[sperfly]

While I think spiky hair and iPods look dorky and unprofessional I also feel that most of the guys that I fly with, that wear hats (not all) are generally pretty dorky as well. Also, either I'm missing all these people with spiky hair and iPods or I'm just really not paying much attention, but I don't see this big group roving around.

 

[RJLoser]

You obviously are unaware of what Woody represents. I attribute that to your youth.

Now you are really lost.

The young ones are the normal offenders on the spiky hair and ipods. Give them a chance to mature.

The ones that wear an optional have other issues. If someone wears an optional hat they most always fit into one of these categories:

Can't fly proficiently, self-esteem problems, trying too hard, inferiority complex, Big fish little pond, or EGO issues.

I look as professional as possible. When I see a hat guy....I'm on my toes.

 

[dustrpilot]

I always hated the hat. I have short hair, but still, after all day of taking the hat off and on I get hat hair. So what looks more professional, wearing the hat in the terminal, or sitting in the cockpit looking like you just ran from the TSA?
if I was bald or a Crome dome I would have wore it 'cause chicks dig it

 

[dingo222]

the hat aka " dome of obedience" is only good for one thing: to keep my dome dry during heavy snow or rain days. The rest of the year is should be at home collecting dust where it belongs.

The thing that kills me are the white sunglasses on top of the head or around the back of the neck. Really? Wtf skipper, i thought we were catching mahi mahi on this trip. And the people that hang their aviators, id's and other personal effects from their epaulets. What is that? It's not an attachment point for your stun grenades Mr. call of duty hero. You have pockets and five bags that you drag around; use them.

 

[nerjdriver]

You don't like the hat....fine.. I can't stand when you take shots at guys who do like it.
I look forward to the day when the only airline uniform is Dockers, golf shirts and sneakers.

Case and point..... You have issues. Now go shine your hat brass and steam your blazer for your ATL-HSV voyage.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

You guys are worried about the guy who wears the hat when 1/2 of us have yellowed shirts that have never seen an iron, aren't tailored, aren't tucked in, and the zip tie hanging to boot. Add cheap pants, crumby shoes from Marshals, the Oakley glasses hanging from the eapaulet along with the big LSU lanyard...that's about half the tools I fly with. If it's bad enough, I will not walk near them in the terminal. Guess I have issues.

 

[enuffalready]

You guys are worried about the guy who wears the hat when 1/2 of us have yellowed shirts that have never seen an iron, aren't tailored, aren't tucked in, and the zip tie hanging to boot. Add cheap pants, crumby shoes from Marshals, the Oakley glasses hanging from the eapaulet along with the big LSU lanyard...that's about half the tools I fly with. If it's bad enough, I will not walk near them in the terminal. Guess I have issues.

i agree with all of that... except the lanyard... i see plenty of lanyards when i jumpseat on Delta and Airtan that are plenty jacked up

 

[Baronman]

You guys are worried about the guy who wears the hat when 1/2 of us have yellowed shirts that have never seen an iron, aren't tailored, aren't tucked in, and the zip tie hanging to boot. Add cheap pants, crumby shoes from Marshals, the Oakley glasses hanging from the eapaulet along with the big LSU lanyard...that's about half the tools I fly with. If it's bad enough, I will not walk near them in the terminal. Guess I have issues.

Hahaha! So true..What's with the college lanyards? Unfortunately what many pilots view as "relaxed and cool" comes off as childish and sloppy.

 

[MoreDaysOff]

I wear the hat.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I wear the hat.

Good news. It is optional, so you can continue to wear it!

 

[PUCK]

Now you are really lost.

The young ones are the normal offenders on the spiky hair and ipods. Give them a chance to mature.

The ones that wear an optional have other issues. If someone wears an optional hat they most always fit into one of these categories:

Can't fly proficiently, self-esteem problems, trying too hard, inferiority complex, Big fish little pond, or EGO issues.

I look as professional as possible. When I see a hat guy....I'm on my toes.

WOW! I really hope you don't work for my company. I personally like to talk to a guy before I make my judgments. You Sir need to grow up alittle.

Jerry Bartelson Xjt

 

[zonejumper]

I wear the hat.

Good for you! imp:

I hope you don't have to hear snide comments from your coworkers who don't (as, unfortunately, I've seen happen many times.)