UAL recalls 40, more to be recalled in '05

[UALfurloughee]

I'm sure this is old news to most, but I couldn't find reference to the news anywhere on the site, so I figured I'd share.

The 40 recalls will be in training in November, and more will be recalled next year.

Hope that helps!

 

[B190Captain]

I'm sure this is old news to most, but I couldn't find reference to the news anywhere on the site, so I figured I'd share.

The 40 recalls will be in training in November, and more will be recalled next year.

Hope that helps!

GOOD NEWS!! HOPE ALL WILL BE BACK SOON!

 

[C5 Guy]

It will be interesting to see how many guys take the recall or hang out in their current jobs to see what the bankruptcy proceedings and pension woes lead to. Not to mention how many more senior guys decide to retire early.

 

[P3-Adub]

Just ran into the very last guy furloughed at UAL in Rockford, IL on a customs/tech stop the other day. He was pumping gas at the FBO. He is planning on going back and looking forward to it. He also scored an L-39 ( Chech Jet Trainer )ferry job out of North American Aviation and will keep his hand in that. His opinion is that maybe only 50% or so will return, guess we'll see how that works out on this first go around. With all of the love the company is showing the pilot group, don't really blame people for finding other careers. I plan to at least take the full 2 year deferrement to wait and see. Then again its not like they will get to my number anytime soon. Still good news about the recalls. The letter I received today says that they expect more announcements before the end of the year, came from Steve Forte. Looks like we will have to max out the 401K for retirement though, that is if the existing employees don't burn the place down before we all go back!

 

[Searobfly]

Hey guys--this is hardcore rummor, but word around the campfire from a former SFO new-hire supervisor who's buds w/a flt manager said that the Board of Directors approved provisions for 400 recalls right off in 2005 if WHQ needs them. I figure that news woulda made the compuserve forum somehow if it was true, but that's what he said. TK wants to ramp up big time (50+/mo.) in the spring to fill the gap. Speculative at best..but that's what I heard.

We all know that among other things, little details like the pension, early retirement, and block hours for '05 will determine the rate and number of recalls.

Good luck out there. Hope to be back soon and STAY back.

Rob

 

[RichardFitzwell]

Thanks Searob. I knew you United guys flew with your hats on…you just proved it.


Kidding. Glad to see the recalls.

 

[Av8rTodd]

Thanks for info

Excellent rumor. I plan on bypassing awhile, of course I won't be recalled for a while (1182 out of 2172 on the street). I REALLY do not want to commute to the LCO on reserve out of ORD. Hopefully 05 will be better than the last few years were for the industry.

Ciao

 

[BigRed1]

Recall Assignments

For all you interested furloughees. I am in the very first recall group of 20 starting in November. We just got the drop for the recall assignments. All of the first 40 are A320 slots. On the latest bid which closed September 8th, there were 36 unfilled vacancies. All Airbus and the domiciles were 15 LAX and 21 SFO. So, If you wanted to stay in ORD, JFK or DEN, like myself, we are out of luck. Nothing like commuting to LAX on reserve. Hmmm...Living the dream.

 

[EAP]

Nothing like commuting to LAX on reserve. Hmmm...Living the dream.

Dude, you are soooooo 1998! What, you had to quit your weekends off 747 capt job to go back? A lot of guys would be happy to go back to reserve at the Yo these days

 

[EAP]

By the way, congrats to all.

 

[AAflyer]

UAL to get rid of another 68 mainline jets? WTFO. How is this going to help the recalls. Anybody with good intel. Hope to see you all inthe cockpit and off the street.

Good Luck

AA

PS. Article was posted on the majors interview side.

 

[spanky2]

FWIW...after 5 months of recalls at Delta, about 33% are taking PLOA, MLOA, or bypassing.

 

[HvyjetFO]

Despite the 68 fewer airplanes, management is sticking with the recalls for this year...next year is the big question. I believe I read that only 40% took the recall thus far to those who were offered.

Hvy

 

[Huggyu2]

Despite the 68 fewer airplanes, management is sticking with the recalls for this year...next year is the big question. I believe I read that only 40% took the recall thus far to those who were offered.

Hvy

So you're saying they went through 100 pilots to get 40 to come back. I also heard the number was closer to 200. Anyone have any accurate "facts", as opposed to these "rumors"?

 

[skykid]

I don't have any more accurate facts, but I have talked to several people who got furloughed late in the process who say they are not coming back while UAL is still in CH11. That makes a lot of sense. You have to guess there is a significant number who will not come back because of military obligations, and some who have moved on to other airlines or career fields.

 

[BigRed1]

At USaviation.com one UAL poster stated his LEC said they went through 51 pilots to get the 40. I am one of those 40. Happy to be going back, but nervous about the situation of our industry. Nothing like returning to the bottom of the seniority list at a bankrupt company to make you feel all warm inside. All of us got the A320 and we all are SFO or LAX. As they get deeper into the recall list, there is no doubt they will have larger and larger numbers of pilots bypassing the recall. Those of us going back now have only been out 10 months so we didn't get another job, or didn't get too much higher on the ol' pay scale at our new jobs to justify permanantly leaving UAL. The difference in my pay at USA3000 compared to UAL at 6 year seniority is 5K per month. That is a lot of pay to pass up, especially when you include vacation and "B" Fund money among other things. I think when you get into the 2 and 3 year furloughees and beyond, I bet there will be one bypass for every recall. Most of those furloughees would have to take another paycut again if they leave their now current job to return to UAL again. A lot of this attrition rate will of course depend on the condition of UAL in the future. I sure hope I made the right choice.