UAL Furlogh Message

[furlough-boy]

Did any of you fellow UAL furloughed guys/gals get to hear Captain Forte's message regarding the future furlogh numbers? I missed it. Just curious how many more are coming down the pipe.... Thanks.

 

[furlough-boy]

I was furloughed because I couldn't spell

 

[General Lee]

Unfortunately, a friend of mine said 600-800 more. Ouch. Let's hope things get better for them soon.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[GuppyPuppy]

It said that by July 2004 UA expects to have approximately 7200-7500 pilots on the seniority list. Of these, approximately 6200 will be active line pilots (the rest would be in management, training, on leave, etc...).

Geez....sometimes I wish I was never hired there. I'm about 950 from the bottom of the 9/01 list and don't know if I'll ever get the call to come back to DENTK.

x-GP

 

[Frac Daddy]

7500 on the seniority list? Wow. Didn't UAL have over 10,000 before the furloughs started?

 

[General Lee]

There has got to be some retirements in that number. Also, maybe there will be more retirements coming up with the low Gatt rate etc. for September 1st. I just hope United gets a plan and sticks to it. Atleast the economy seems to be getting better and the War was short. SARS seems to be over and things hopefully will get better for you guys.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Heavy Set]

Not trying to be sarcastic, but what is United's plan going forward beyond just cost cutting? I understand the commuter-side is going to the lowest bidder....

Any definitive plans or strategies apparent? What about Starfish/low-cost subsidiary? So, what's the plan?


Thanks

 

[furlough-boy]

I heard all the 7200-7500 mumbo-jumbo, but how many are on the senority list now. Someone do the math. How many more furloughs?

600-800 more would mean about 2200-2400 total.

 

[race#53]

UAL on 7-31-03 junior man will be 8393 with 1643 gone.

 

[General Lee]

Furlough boy,

That is the number I heard from my United FO friend. A total of about 2200-2400. I hope it doesn't even get close, and I hope United gets better soon.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Humblepilot]

His numbers are that high BUT they are based on flying numbers projected in the distance. If you are within that number, plan on the furlough and if it doesn't happen you can tell us how lucky you were when we return in ten years or so. And btw, the beers will be on you.

Frats,
Humble

 

[ElecJet]

Would anyone know the DOH of the last pilot standiing after these furloughs take place? I thought the furloughs at
US Airways went back to a '88 hire date. Ouch! Seems to me there is still an alignment of these to airlines route structures.

 

[ultrarunner]

this was posted by a former Midex pilot, on the MEH board, that obviously went to UAL....

UAL HOTLINE 07/01/03
Today is, unfortunately, the furlough date for another 79 of our pilots. As you know, we’ll be furloughing 88 more pilots on July 31 (the start of the August pilot month), bringing the total number of furloughed pilots to 1,643.
Today also marks the closing of our HNL B767 domicile.
During our recent employee meetings, many questions were asked regarding additional pilot furloughs and the economic status of the company. I’m sure everyone realizes that pilot manpower is primarily driven by our marketing plan and the number of pilot hours. Based on the most recent information from Aircraft Scheduling, our total active line pilot requirement is going to be in the neighborhood of 6,200 active pilots. This is approximately 900 fewer pilots than our July 2003 active line pilot count. Normal age-60 retirements over the next 18 months will reduce this number by 200. Therefore, based on the projected number of block hours and utilization, we anticipate another 600-800 active line pilot furloughs, or an average of 60-80 per month. These numbers include the furloughs effective July 31. For those interested in seniority numbers, that would put the bottom seniority number between 7700 to 7500.

 

[rightrudder]

What would be the DOH of the most senior person affected? (seniority # 7500-7700).

 

[Citrus Jockey]

Spring of 98

The most senior person in that range would have a hire date of somwhere in March of 1998.

Citrus Jockey

 

[crosscut]

Re: Spring of 98

The most senior person in that range would have a hire date of somwhere in March of 1998.

Citrus Jockey

Randy?