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First of all, the "new" TWA red/white/blue was the best looking paintjob in the universe. Period.

Secondly, I was trying to poke a little fun at the UAL ad while informing you guys of our next two Denver destinations.

If you think I'm cocky so be it. I love my airline and will do my very best to help every one of my customers know WE appreciate them putting their trust in Southwest Airlines for their travel needs. I'll also do my very best to let my "internal customers", ie. coworkers, know that we all play for the same team and a team that plays together wins together.

If that's cocky sign me up.

Gup
 
HuH

SWA/FO said:
We have the better looking paint jobs too... Actually, we have the best paint jobs in the entire industry! Thats a fact Ted!

"Hotdog on a stick" and "Barney does LUV" are eye sore paint jobs.

For a killer paint job check out Oakley INC. Glob Exp.

Also the Denver area doesn't have the caliber of customers like

Philthadelphia,

so don't expect to grow too fast.

You will get your piece of the pie, just not the fresh pie out of the oven.
 
Grow and grow fast we will.. You guys think we are stupid? I think it will be a good market for us. :eek: Look we already added two new cities on the first day of the operation! Nothing like hot pie (out of the oven).


I actually like the new UAL paint job, its way better then the "Wolf" one.
 
I don't like middle seats, so I'd fly UAL over Southwest every time if there was a choice.

I've never liked the Southwest Darwinian method of boarding. Southwest has been my bad list ever since one of their gate agents started screaming "RUN RUN RUN" at me as I entered the jetway. So don't tell me about 'good customer service'. Start by not screaming at the paying customers.

UAL ground staff and flight attendants sometimes seem tired and grumpy, but they give me an assigned seat and don't scream at me. I appreciate it when the flight attendents don't tell jokes or act silly. Just give me the full can and move on please.

As far as the pilots go, I'm pretty sure that both UAL and Southwest have excellent sticks up there. I don't want them to come back and be friendly with me, I don't want to hear jokes from them, I want them to drive me to my destination without scaring me.
 
Dan Roman said:
I was kind of wondering how a handful of SWA guys had the gall to be boasting about taxing fast and their culture of hurrying as a form of productivity. This from the only airline that has had two high speed runway incursions in recent years.
Yes some of them seem a little cocky and appear to be hinging their self esteem on the success of their airline, but they also have a lot of good guys there too. Pan Am use to be pretty full of themselves way back when as did UAL more recently. I think UAL has learned some pretty good lessons and the old saying about "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" could be applicable to UAL. They are going to come out of BK a much leaner and less arrogant company and I don't think they are going to be easy pickings for SWA or anyone else.

Hey!!

It's not longer the "type" of accident - but the "quality" that counts.
 
http://insidedenver.com/drmn/airlines/article/0,2777,DRMN_23912_4361446,00.html

Looks as if the customers are speaking.....


Virginia Card Smith might never have flown Southwest if it weren't for a last-minute emergency trip to see her son in Burbank, Calif.
Card Smith said she normally flies United Airlines because she has a frequent-flier account with the carrier. But after checking last-minute fares to Burbank, she balked at the $600 round-trip price.
She eventually found a $360 ticket on Southwest, with a connection in Las Vegas, and booked it despite the fact she wouldn't get her coveted miles. "United's fare was just too high," she said during the flight to Las Vegas.
 
Halo_RJdriver said:
For a killer paint job check out Oakley INC. Glob Exp.

Killer? What are you 12? Oh yea, I see the Halo reference.:laugh:
 
JimNtexas said:
I don't like middle seats, so I'd fly UAL over Southwest every time if there was a choice.

Looks like you need to check-in on your computer 24 hours before your flight...thats right 24 hours before your flight and get an A or B boarding pass. Then you will not have to sit in the middle.

Ear plugs may help with the jokes being told, that you don't want to hear.
Thanks for flying with us...remember we like you and your money :beer:
 
SWA/FO said:
Looks like you need to check-in on your computer 24 hours before your flight...thats right 24 hours before your flight and get an A or B boarding pass. Then you will not have to sit in the middle.

That can be difficult to do if you don't have access to a computer and/or your company books tickets with less than 24 hours' advance notice.
 
cayonblue wanker

canyonblue said:
Killer? What are you 12? Oh yea, I see the Halo reference.:laugh:


WOW Marshall Mathers is your IDOL. I would take any reference over quoting a wanna be gangel rapper. Change your name to B-Rad. You've been Pwned fool. Do you have a problem with swa/fo Mr. Krabs avatar? Your post sounds like your a 14 year old britney spears fan.

your paint jobs still are horrible get over it.
 
Guitar Guy said:
That can be difficult to do if you don't have access to a computer and/or your company books tickets with less than 24 hours' advance notice.
Do you think that if you book on UAL with less than 24 hours notice that you won't be ASSIGNED a middle seat. If you can still get assigned an aisle or window seat with less than 24 hours notice then the load on that flight most be bad.
 
737tanker said:
Do you think that if you book on UAL with less than 24 hours notice that you won't be ASSIGNED a middle seat. If you can still get assigned an aisle or window seat with less than 24 hours notice then the load on that flight most be bad.

I've not had too much trouble getting window or aisle seats on United, though I'm not booked on them too often. And with some of the airlines, I'm apparently getting enough miles to not get middle seats unless, as you suggest, the flight is simply jam-packed with passengers to begin with. And as for the loads being "bad", I guess that's a relative point of view. I know the airlines like full planes (hopefully with good revenue, too) but I prefer quieter, less-crowded flights when I'm traveling.
 
For the record, I work for a uex carrier. I often buy tix on UAl and route them thru ORD for the simple fact that more that 50% of the time, we get bumped, and get a free flight out of it. simple facts.

Mookie
 
SWA/FO said:
We have the better looking paint jobs too... Actually, we have the best paint jobs in the entire industry! Thats a fact Ted!
...Corndog!
 
GuppyWN said:
First of all, the "new" TWA red/white/blue was the best looking paintjob in the universe. Period.

Secondly, I was trying to poke a little fun at the UAL ad while informing you guys of our next two Denver destinations.

If you think I'm cocky so be it. I love my airline and will do my very best to help every one of my customers know WE appreciate them putting their trust in Southwest Airlines for their travel needs. I'll also do my very best to let my "internal customers", ie. coworkers, know that we all play for the same team and a team that plays together wins together.

If that's cocky sign me up.

Gup
Hello,
I think you should love your wife, kids, parents, even dog! To love your employer is a bit over the top, is your car sexy, do you have a hot motorcycle? Its a job, enjoy it, do your best and have pride in what you do. Sip the koolaid, gulping it will continue the brain freeze.
PBR
 
Maybe if United employees would have "gulped the koolaid", you wouldn't be in bankruptcy and depending on the government to bail you out. No way united matches SWA.
 
I love SWA too...along with my Wife & Kids.

Corndogs rule!!!! How about PENN ST baby!!!
 
JimNtexas said:
I don't like middle seats, so I'd fly UAL over Southwest every time if there was a choice.

I've never liked the Southwest Darwinian method of boarding. Southwest has been my bad list ever since one of their gate agents started screaming "RUN RUN RUN" at me as I entered the jetway. So don't tell me about 'good customer service'. Start by not screaming at the paying customers.

UAL ground staff and flight attendants sometimes seem tired and grumpy, but they give me an assigned seat and don't scream at me. I appreciate it when the flight attendents don't tell jokes or act silly. Just give me the full can and move on please.

As far as the pilots go, I'm pretty sure that both UAL and Southwest have excellent sticks up there. I don't want them to come back and be friendly with me, I don't want to hear jokes from them, I want them to drive me to my destination without scaring me.

Jim,

Since you are the more senior F-111 WSO, I must respectfully disagree with you. When was the last time you flew on an airliner?

"You don't like middle seats so you'd fly UAL over SWA." All of the UAL mainline aircraft have middle seats. Your chances of getting a middle seat are the same on UAL and SWA. However, if all you've flown the past few years was on United Express and their CRJ's, I could understand why you thought that there were no middle seats on United.

In my case, I've been yelled at by many more United employees than I could shake a stick at, talk about disgruntled employees! UAL FA's have been on the warpath for years since they didn't have a contract for the longest time. I have a lot of great friends and family who work at UAL and I wish no harm to the company, but I feel like the enemy, and not a customer, when I fly on them.

I've been "yelled" at by SWA employees, as well, but I never took it personally and I knew they were attempting to be light-hearted. I could tell a difference.

BTW, the last two times I've flown UAL...no full can of Coke. Only airline I've flown recently that gave a full can was AirTran and SWA.

Flying on the airlines is no longer fun, especially since 9/11, but I like flying on SWA since the employees make it a fun experience. I can't wait to start working for them.

Jim...just my .02, take it for what it's worth. Love your avitar! What a fun jet!
 
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_3368766


Southwest has plans to add more employees here as early as March; secure a third gate at DIA that could handle as many as 10 more daily departures; and consider an expansion of the C concourse that would pave the way for long-term growth. Southwest has asked for a third gate on the C concourse in March. Lease details have not been determined.
:eek:
 
Chuck Yogourt said:
Maybe if United employees would have "gulped the koolaid", you wouldn't be in bankruptcy and depending on the government to bail you out. No way united matches SWA.

You heard it here folks from the 14 year old wonder punk...Now back to another screen name to name calling and hiding!
737
 
Can't we just....

File this is under the standard flightinfo, 'we hate everything any legacy does, unless they happen to be hiring' category? Doesn't this fit in with all of the bashing of Boyd and other analysts unless they're bashing United/TED, DAL/Song. Never mind if any of it makes sense or not, because we don't want to hear it and besides we're really smart pilots who can't see beyond the tip of our noses if it doesn't involve operating the jet. I guess it's more fun to be 'outraged' and 'surprised' years later about something that was previously predicted.
 
So the UAL passengers read the ads about how much finer UAL is than SWA on their way to the DEN airport and......

Computer glitch slows United
Check-in problems create long lines, some missed flights

January 4, 2006

A nationwide United Airlines computer glitch shut down the airline's check-in system at Denver International Airport Tuesday, forcing hundreds of its passengers to stand in line for nearly two hours and causing some to miss flights.

The massive malfunction affected airports across the country at which United operates, which meant flights from DIA and elsewhere also were delayed for at least an hour.

No other airline was affected by the glitch, Sally Covington, DIA's acting deputy manager of aviation, said.

DIA staff and Denver firefighters walked around handing out water bottles. United employees announced on bullhorns the reason for the delays and tried to direct passengers.

While some passengers were upset, United and DIA officials did not report any unruly behavior.

At the west terminal where United operates its ticket counters and kiosks, lines snaked around the terminal.

Many arriving passengers were stunned when they walked out of the elevators or through the open doors of the terminal and they saw the lines that resembled fans waiting to get tickets for a Rolling Stones concert.

Jerry Ruhland had dropped off his wife, Nina, and their two sons, Matthew, 8, and Jack, 7, at the airport while he returned a rental car.

Many passengers were heading back home after visiting Colorado for the holidays.

"I realized what was happening when I walked in the door and I couldn't find my wife anyplace," Ruh-land said. "We thought it was just busy."

Although United did not cancel flights, it did delay many scheduled departures, trying to give passengers as much time as possible to get to Concourse B, where the airline operates its gates.

Monica Serrano, the airlines manager of technology and process, said Concourse B was packed with passengers and it's likely some did not make their flights.

"We are operating all our flights," she said. "We're not canceling anything."

United staff members were working late Tuesday with IBM computer experts to try to resolve the systemwide malfunction, Serrano said.

A few passengers were given priority: Those who were flying internationally, and those who checked in on United's Web site within 24 hours of their scheduled departures and obtained their boarding passes.

The computer problems hit United's processors shortly before 5 p.m., Serrano said.

The airline scrambled to deploy many of its staff to the ticket counters to accommodate passengers.

With the screens blank and the computers down, United agents and employees were forced to manually write out the boarding passes for travelers.

After passengers stood in line for more than an hour and a half, the additional wait at the counters was about 10 to 15 minutes.

The airline said it hoped to get the system back into operation sometime Tuesday night. At one point, United officials thought the system was restarting, but it stalled and crashed again.

By 8 p.m. the lines had shrunk considerably. Nonetheless, United and DIA officials were calling hotels to book rooms for stranded passengers, Covington said.
 
I was there, and yes it was ugly and not fun for anyone. UAL was in need of IT improvement over 5 years ago. Of course, Goodwin thought it would be better to blow the money on other things. Now, as we understand it, the investments are finally ready to be made.

If SWA never has and never will have a significant computer system problem, more power to you.
 
Saw these posted on a bulletin board at my crew base:

Top 10 LEAST heard things at SWA:

10. "So...what aircraft are you flying now?"
9. "Man! These HNL layovers are fun!"
8. "Dude! You taxi waaaay too fast!"
7. "Want my crew meal?"
6. "I love MDW!"
5. "Starting #4"
4. "Just one write-up. We need a First Class seat cover."
3. "Is USAir hiring?"
2. "Autobrakes 2, please"
1. "Hey look...Herb's sober!"

In fun!
 
Well I for one will be rooting for United to vanquish the enemy back to where they came from!! It will be a glorious battle. As long as United wins of course!
 
United will not win. I'll even give you 7.5 points.
 
USC could have used it. We all hate Texas.:puke:
 
I thought we hated both of them? Just think what those two teams have done in the past 2 years and what has happened to our team? Talk about opposite directions? I think the Lions need that Vince dude and USC's #21 in the backfield. FIRE MILLIN!!!
 
737tanker said:
Do you think that if you book on UAL with less than 24 hours notice that you won't be ASSIGNED a middle seat. If you can still get assigned an aisle or window seat with less than 24 hours notice then the load on that flight most be bad.

Until recently I used to commute on UAL one or both ways. Although the load factors are pretty high I'd say that I probably got a aisle/window seat at least half the time. When I got stuck in a middle seat it was usually in Economy Plus. As a jumpseater I'm pretty much dead last on their priority list so any revenue passenger would have a better shot at window/aisle seats.
 

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