UAL/CAL Merger Buzz Article......(Again)

[jbDC9]

To top it off, you killed the Concorde. Aren't you ashamed?

Bye Bye---General Lee

Aren't you ashamed for being such a flaming a$$hole?

 

[fflyerworld]

Reading all these nasty comments makes me wonder why no one has mentioned one if not one of the most important aspects of any merger or acquistion. L A B O R
There is not a day that goes by that I don't hear some of my UA friends complaining and bitching about how bad things are at UA internally - morale awful, hatred and distrust of mgt. (forever I think no matter who is at the helm) etc etc. This is everyone - CSR's , FA's, Pilots, Rampers, Mechanics. UA has a history of this type of negativity. For years it has reflected on their customers (me for one) and anyone who thinks that merging this work force with another one (who cares who it is) is a good idea and will make the world a better place - - needs to wake up. Just look at the US - HP merger a few years ago. They are STILL battling each other and have seen very little if any so called synergies since their joining. You must take care of your own people before you can be successful at tackling a whole new group of labor intensive folks. No matter how you look at this - airlines are a service focused, customer oriented industry. If you can't be happy with yourselves how the hell are you going to be able to take care of who you serve??
Best of Luck to all my UA friends whether or not you merge with CO, US , or whomever!

 

[BID]

General Lee,

did you vote for scope relief?

 

[contrail67]

Well, i don't work for either carrier, and don't mean to interrupt you guys Rant fun...but, guess this is the appropriate time to say that everyone know what 'DELTA' stands for:


Don't Ever Land There Again

Hey, i know its an old joke, but still Funny. And, well, probably get the deltoids all spooled up, as they have NO sense of humor, if the joke is about their 'beloved delta' . . . oh well.

That one comes from them putting a 727 down at Ohio State University airport instead of Columbus International...ooopps. Uh..they missed...but only by about 5 miles. I guess at that point you just say.."welcome to Ohio"...???

 

[Paul R. Smith]

WOW!!!
This thread is good. Good & Terrible.

 

[Ben Franklin]

This from an APC thread.....

Delta Compared to the rest of the world:

Ben,

That makes you guys look like "small potatoes." And, even after DL's $1.2 billion write down for hedging last year, DL actually gained $400 million in cash towards cash on hand. To top it off, you killed the Concorde. Aren't you ashamed?


Bye Bye---General Lee

The DAL number on that link included all NWA and regional flying.

Adding up CAL and UAL numbers in that chart puts the new airline right there with DAL - hardly "small potatoes" when you're only a % or two less in total pax carried. Take into account the 5% revenue premium that the new company would most likely continue to enjoy and there's more total revenue for carrying fewer passengers on the combined carrier's network.

Speaking of size.. how big is STAR vs. SKYTEAM again? Oh that's right.. SKYTEAM is "small potatoes" when compared to STAR.

Why ask about the concorde 3 times? It always a tragedy when people die. Food for thought though from your other post - no one died on the DC10 and the concorde program was "killed" by high fuel prices, high maintenance prices and lower ticket premiums - not one crash... as you would "feel" is correct.

It's sad that you say that you would "enjoy" watching a CAL/UAL merger (fail, as you wish) - It really shows your lack of class to wish ill will on other pilots while hoping for/writing about your own potential success.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[IAHERJ]

This from an APC thread.....

Delta Compared to the rest of the world:

Ben,

That makes you guys look like "small potatoes." And, even after DL's $1.2 billion write down for hedging last year, DL actually gained $400 million in cash towards cash on hand. To top it off, you killed the Concorde. Aren't you ashamed?


Bye Bye---General Lee

ATW numbers always list Continental Micronesia separate from Continental. "Small potatoes"? I think not.

 

[100/hour/5y]

CAL SUCKS!
The Quality of life at CAL vs Delta

My Delta buddy JFK ER

While I sit on the bottom of my category after the recent displacements, It's an extremely laid back life sitting reserve in base. A few short calls spread around through the month and on an average flying 2-3 trips a month (length ranging from day trip to 4 days). Sometimes less, sometimes more.

3rd year pay last year I made a bit over 100k while averaging flying somewhere around 40 or 45 hours a month. It's definitely a great place to work.

CAL EWR 756

I am on 4th year pay and just made 70K last year... I live in Base and bid Reserve.

I get my days rolled off and double duty duty periods about 2-4 times a month or more.

I fly about 45-60 hrs a month and in the summer 80hrs plus...

CAL sucks

 

[Ex737Driver]

.....This thread is good. Good & Terrible.

Classic movie.

 

[flygirlqt]

That one comes from them putting a 727 down at Ohio State University airport instead of Columbus International...ooopps. Uh..they missed...but only by about 5 miles. I guess at that point you just say.."welcome to Ohio"...???

I thought it was when they landed at Mac Dill AFB instead of TPA

Or does it stand for:

Damn Engines Lets Try Another when they shut down the wrong engine on that 767 coming out of LAX some time ago?