UA to charge UAX employees per segment

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You need just made TOTD. The pilots have the power to stand-up to management and make a positive difference for all the employees of the company, sadly the only thing management seems to understand is numbers.

Step down from your horse. Pilots have no power. And how does wasting money in a world where everything is about the bottom dollar help make a positive difference for all employees? costs go up and guess where the contracts go?

 

[Flyer1015]

And this is why the pilot profession is now just a job. You forget without pilots, airlines are out of business, immediately. Until airlines realize that the process is about equilibrium, if they decide that they want it all, they can reap the results. Every pilot from day one is taught to conserve resources and to monitor said resources, it goes against the very essence of the pilot DNA to waste said resources and as such management knows this and exploit it. Wanna get even, hit them in the wallet, fuels are aprox 40% of an airlines operating costs, brake wear is significant as well. These are discretionary usages that a pilot can modulate. I will be flying as low as I can, and the first available turn off will be aimed for. If you wanna roll over and stick your bu*t into the air, go for it, for me game is on! My cost index selection is now switched to extreme max.

It doesn't matter how you fly (fuel-wise) if you are at a regional. Rest assured, United can easily not renew your contract if certain costs (fuel) keep rising up due to pilot usage "error."

 

[nickgutnick]

Step down from your horse. Pilots have no power. And how does wasting money in a world where everything is about the bottom dollar help make a positive difference for all employees? costs go up and guess where the contracts go?

Settle down over there! What if you had to fly all over the country , begging for a ride, just to get to your crappy job.Then they charge you on top of it. Lighten up Frances!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

It doesn't matter how you fly (fuel-wise) if you are at a regional. Rest assured, United can easily not renew your contract if certain costs (fuel) keep rising up due to pilot usage "error."

I am ok with that. I am ready to move on, to a major or out of the industry altogether.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Sorry but I hope somebody figures out who you are and watches you. If you intentionally waste money on the job you should be fired. Pilots are not the only employee at an airline that is important. Shut up and fly the f-ing plane. If it sucks so hard quit.

Spoken like a true management troll, "shut up and fly the f-ing plane" how 'bout, no.....fly it yourself chimp.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Easy, Trigger! You don't want to get the old man started again. But seriously, if they are going to make the pilots and flight attendants pay to commute, then I'll support whatever course of action they choose to go with (with safety paramount, naturally).

Thanks,
Just add 300 lbs to every release, 1.5 pax get to stay home, UAL will figger it out after awhile, or not, who cares.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Thanks,
Just add 300 lbs to every release, 1.5 pax get to stay home, UAL will figger it out after awhile, or not, who cares.

You know with your mentality, I am willing to bet your charming personality at restaurants has allowed you to enjoy a few snot rockets compliments of the chef...

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You know with your mentality, I am willing to bet your charming personality at restaurants has allowed you to enjoy a few snot rockets compliments of the chef...

Is the avatar a picture of your kids? Or is you and one of your buds?

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Is the avatar a picture of your kids? Or is you and one of your buds?

I'm the fat kid with the buck teeth

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I'm the fat kid with the buck teeth

Ohtay!

 

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Spoken like a true management troll, "shut up and fly the f-ing plane" how 'bout, no.....fly it yourself chimp.

I think I could figure out how to fly it, not well but I think I could get it airborne. It would be that whole landing thing that would get me! Ive watched you guys do it..... looks hard.

 

[Ops check good]

Settle down over there! What if you had to fly all over the country , begging for a ride, just to get to your crappy job.Then they charge you on top of it. Lighten up Frances!

I was crabby so I went into total A-hole mode. It does suck that flight benefits continue a downward spiral.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I was crabby so I went into total A-hole mode. It does suck that flight benefits continue a downward spiral.

It's easy, spend 65k to get to Commercial Multi Engine, figger out how to get 1250 hours more, then figger out how you will feed your family on 75 hour guarantee times $23.00 per hour, living in some of the highest cost housing areas in the country. Spend 5-6 years at poverty wages(wife and kids), waiting patiently for the elusive upgrade, only to go back to being a 19 year old SGU schedulers personal chew toy. You think it's easy, come on down.
Sorry, some of the pinheads on here think what we do is a walk in the park, try operating in and out of ORD on a deicing day, times 4. Most mainline guys will do one pass, us regional pukes will do 4 days right in the middle of it.
So if I sound intolerant, it's because I am, we do some of the most technically challenging flying in the business. Try an 18 leg 4 day in and out of ORD with APUs deferred and multiple DMIs to boot. We earn our keep, period, and I do this week after week without Chief Pilot intervention.

 

[Flyer1015]

It's easy, spend 65k to get to Commercial Multi Engine, figger out how to get 1250 hours more, then figger out how you will feed your family on 75 hour guarantee times $23.00 per hour, living in some of the highest cost housing areas in the country. Spend 5-6 years at poverty wages(wife and kids), waiting patiently for the elusive upgrade, only to go back to being a 19 year old SGU schedulers personal chew toy. You think it's easy, come on down.
Sorry, some of the pinheads on here think what we do is a walk in the park, try operating in and out of ORD on a deicing day, times 4. Most mainline guys will do one pass, us regional pukes will do 4 days right in the middle of it.
So if I sound intolerant, it's because I am, we do some of the most technically challenging flying in the business. Try an 18 leg 4 day in and out of ORD with APUs deferred and multiple DMIs to boot. We earn our keep, period, and I do this week after week without Chief Pilot intervention.

Who is this being addressed to? You do realize a majority of LCC/Legacy pilots are ex-regional and have gone through what you are describing?

 

[Mercyful Fate]

It's easy, spend 65k to get to Commercial Multi Engine, figger out how to get 1250 hours more, then figger out how you will feed your family on 75 hour guarantee times $23.00 per hour, living in some of the highest cost housing areas in the country. Spend 5-6 years at poverty wages(wife and kids), waiting patiently for the elusive upgrade, only to go back to being a 19 year old SGU schedulers personal chew toy. You think it's easy, come on down.
Sorry, some of the pinheads on here think what we do is a walk in the park, try operating in and out of ORD on a deicing day, times 4. Most mainline guys will do one pass, us regional pukes will do 4 days right in the middle of it.
So if I sound intolerant, it's because I am, we do some of the most technically challenging flying in the business. Try an 18 leg 4 day in and out of ORD with APUs deferred and multiple DMIs to boot. We earn our keep, period, and I do this week after week without Chief Pilot intervention.

So, who do you hold responsible for your career path? This crap is nothing new, you act like you are the first poor fool to run into these problems. Go preach your problems to those guys who have been furloughed and praying for the opportunity to just fly again..I'm sure they will feel bad for you.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

So, who do you hold responsible for your career path? This crap is nothing new, you act like you are the first poor fool to run into these problems. Go preach your problems to those guys who have been furloughed and praying for the opportunity to just fly again..I'm sure they will feel bad for you.

I am.
When a dill hole tells me to "just fly the f-in plane" that reeks of pilot pushing, and coming from a DXer, it's inappropriate.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

So, who do you hold responsible for your career path? This crap is nothing new, you act like you are the first poor fool to run into these problems. Go preach your problems to those guys who have been furloughed and praying for the opportunity to just fly again..I'm sure they will feel bad for you.

I am. I paid my dues and continue to do so every flight hour, I have been careful in choosing my path.
When a dill hole tells me to "just fly the f-in plane" that reeks of pilot pushing, and coming from a DXer, it's inappropriate.

 

[CaribPilot]

LOL @ Dillhole

 

[Mercyful Fate]

I am. I paid my dues and continue to do so every flight hour, I have been careful in choosing my path.
When a dill hole tells me to "just fly the f-in plane" that reeks of pilot pushing, and coming from a DXer, it's inappropriate.

If dispatchers are so worthless and not needed, then why are you so worried what a dispatcher would have to say?

Guess the question is, why are you still stuck at the regional level? Who or what is keeping you out of the majors? Or are you one of those guys that will always bitch about being at the regional level, with no intentions to really leave? Just curious, how many years have you "paid your dues" at the regional level?

 

[OCP]

This turned into another pilot vs dispatcher fight? Why are these popping up all over these days? I thought we all worked for the same crappy industry.