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hurricanepilot3

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I currently work two weeks on two weeks off. What type of schedule while working at CAL can one expect? Please tell me its not four on three off. If so, god bless all the commuters.
 
Well, if you are really junior then yes you may get 4 on, 3 off. Or you may get 5 on, 4 off. There is no single answer to your question. It depends on aircraft type, base, and seniority. After a year at the company I averaged about 15 off on the 737 in Ewr.
 
Seniority is the key, Junior you will get 12 days off for awhile....I am in the top third and get 19 days off in the 737 right seat. (2.5 years with Co.)
 
It really does depend on what aircraft and base you are in. If you are on the 757/767 in EWR you can back your trips up and work 12 in a row because of the 3 man crew.

If you are on the 737 you will be limited by the 30/7 problem. You will hold a line quicker on the 737 though and most likely end up with a few more days off until you get some seniority.
 
16-18 days off rather typical for me. I fly on the low side as much as I can. IAH based been here approx. 2 years and a couple of months.

I do not bid for weekends off but get one here and there. I also like to do one leg the last day of the trip and finish before 3:00 pm. I think I could get more days off but would end up finishing later in the day.

Also have done 4 legs maybe three times since working here. Really enjoy the flying at Continental Airlines and with some seniority I think you can find what works for you.
 
Everyone is right on so far. With our current bidding system, the schedules can be all over the place. The good news is, if you are in the 756 fleet you can back all your trips up and work 14 in a row if that's what floats your boat.

I'm a 2yr 756FO in EWR, sitting about 60-65% in the seat and have 96hrs with 15 days off this month including Thanksgiving, surprising since I didn't ask for it. I was originally awarded a 15 day off line that was worth 83 hrs, but since it's nearly impossible to actually flat out drop a day due to our staffing, I traded my schedule around for more productive trips on the same days I was working anyway.

Two Europe trips, three 8-9hr daytrips, 10.5hr vegas two-day, and a couple other daytrips mixed in there (MCO turns). If you do three "daytrips", they are usually more productive than doing a 3day Euro-trip (three PBI turns is 18hrs of block, most Euro trips in my seniority are less than that), but the Eurotrips will be much more commutable.

That's an unusual schedule for the 756 out of EWR, though. The fleet does mostly Europe flying with late starts and early finishes, very good if you are a commuter. I live relatively local, so I don't mind doing the daytrip stuff.
 
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When you talk about the 757,767 in respect to 3 man schedules. In doing 13 or 14 day trips how many days off are you scheduled for? What type of pay can one expect in your second year? Are the lines better out of IAH or EWR? Again thank you for your insight. Trying to make an educated decission.
 
As a junior line holder you can expect 12 days off. I was hired October 05 and for November I have 17 days off, including Thanksgiving. My pay is around $6200 for 78 hours (just hit 3rd year pay).

With the reduction of summer flying we are properly staffed so I'm no longer flying the 95+ hours like I was in June, July and Aug. The pay isn't that great for the type of flying I'm doing but it will get better on the next contract. Hopefully by the time you hit second year pay the rates will be much higher.

The movement has been great over the past couple years and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.

I haven't paid attention to the IAH flying so I can't help you there.

Good luck on your decision. It's been great so far.
 
I'm averaging 18 off in the 777. Basically I do three trips a month. Late sign ins and early end times. I don't commute so that equates to more home time. It's really like flying for a different airline when you go to the different fleet types here.
When I was in the 737, I worked a lot. After I got pass the magic "splat" line seniority-wise, I was doing 18 off with day trips (my first choice). I thought life was good then, but life in the 777 is a lot better (for me). Of course, that's a personal thing as some people like to fly. QoL is what I'm after. Also, we seem to be less effected by the bs, probably because the 777 is properly staffed.
Although I haven't bid reserve yet, I've been told that reserve pilots don't fly much at all. Once I get my three landings this month, I think I'm going to bid reserve.
 
I didn't know CAL pilots even had any days off over there:-) LOL
 
In August I flew 6 days on reserve. In September I flew 4 days on reserve. October I had 13 days off as a lineholder due to picking up trips. This month it looks like I am going to be abUSED on reserve. I've worked everyday so far.
 
I didn't know CAL pilots even had any days off over there:-) LOL
I know, imagine that. Who would have thought that CAL pilots would have a pretty good QOL in just two short years? It must drive you crazy!
 
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2 years at CAL this month. (2) 4 day SEA/ANC trips on the 757-300 and (1) 8 day 767-400 trip to the Pacific. 2 long layovers in HNL and 3 LOOOONG layovers in Guam with day turns to Tokyo. That's about 80 hours of flying(46 hours widebody). This was kind of a fluke for a junior IAH 757/767 guy though as other CAL guys will attest to. We had a bit of a PBS screw up here for November and they had to pay protect all the senior guys who didn't get the 8 day 767 trips that were awarded(out of seniority) to us junior guys. Normally, as a junior guy(in a senior base) I would have had 90 hours and 12 days off with mostly domestic layovers on the West Coast and EWR and or Florida cities(all 757-300 some 757-200 flying, a small amount of 767-200).

Hope that helps!!
 
Hi Guys,

Just got the call this week, and will start class early next month. Trying to get as much info ahead of my class date so I can make an informed decision on domicile and equipment bid.

My home is the Dallas area, but based with my current airline on the west coast. Any advice on the type of flying in both IAH and EWR would be appreciated. I understand CLE is all 737 and pretty senior, so I'm not really even considering that right now.

If I had my wish, I'd do mostly international flying since most of my experience up to this point has been domestic and Canada. But commuting all the way to EWR from the west coast (gotta save up money to move) doesn't sound too appealing either! :-)

Thanks for any advice from folks who have "been there, done that."
 
Congratulations!

If you want to fly over water type international ops, EWR 756 is really the only place to do it if you're junior. It takes quite a bit of seniority to fly that kind of stuff on the 767 & 777 out of IAH.

If you want to fly Latin America international ops, you can do that as a fairly junior 737 lineholder in IAH
 
EWR 756 is probably for you. move back to Dallas. lots of flights DFW-EWR on CAL and AA. commutable trips on EWR 756. not commutable EWR 737.

IAH 737 is commutable with some Central/South America int'l ops. DFW-IAH commute is a pain lately with mid-day RJ's. but drivable if necessary.

either way your commuter strength will be tested. it's a good job. you'll enjoy it - once you've made it to work.
 
IAHERJ:

Thanks for the detailed posting on your schedule. I never knew that the 75/6 flew HNL-GUM-NRT! I always thought that GUM was strictly 737 and that the only other flying that touched NRT was the 777 out of the other bases. Cool stuff. Does the 75/6 go to any other cities out of GUM?

I am in a class that starts in a couple of weeks, and I am really hoping to get the 75/6 out of EWR. As I am local to EWR, so that would be awesome. I've heard that the airplane tends to go junior because of the associated reserve and whatnot, so hopefully that trend keeps up for me. :o)
 
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IAHERJ:

Thanks for the detailed posting on your schedule. I never knew that the 75/6 flew HNL-GUM-NRT! I always thought that GUM was strictly 737 and that the only other flying that touched NRT was the 777 out of the other bases. Cool stuff. Does the 75/6 go to any other cities out of GUM?

NRT and NGO have historically had larger equipment on it. Back years ago it was the DC-10 to NRT, NGO, CTS, SEL and DPS. In the summers of '93 '94, the 747 flew from HNL-GUM and then to NRT.

Now I guess the 76 does turns to NRT and a few others. I have been trying to get hired by CAL since I was an FA for CAL in 1992.

good luck
 
NRT and NGO have historically had larger equipment on it. Back years ago it was the DC-10 to NRT, NGO, CTS, SEL and DPS. In the summers of '93 '94, the 747 flew from HNL-GUM and then to NRT.

Now I guess the 76 does turns to NRT and a few others. I have been trying to get hired by CAL since I was an FA for CAL in 1992.

good luck


Well, looking at the equipment you've flown I'm not sure why you haven't been called in yet. Good luck. I hope you get a call.
 
thanks, i have wondered since hiring began. Alot of good people have been hired though. My time will come soon enough. I have all the recs. been to the job fairs. some of my recs are retired and haven't been in the offices to check up on things. I have one bro in training now that is gonna push things if he can.
 
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I didn't know CAL pilots even had any days off over there:-) LOL

Why is it that everytime CAL is mentioned this stupid C*NT is always around to talk trash. Geesh. Just kill yourself already.
 
Seniority is the key, Junior you will get 12 days off for awhile....I am in the top third and get 19 days off in the 737 right seat. (2.5 years with Co.)

"Seniority is the key......."
Are you serious? Similar to "Well Brent Musburger, it looks like they are going to have to put more points on the board in order to pull off the victory since they are losing....."
 
Why is it that everytime CAL is mentioned this stupid C*NT is always around to talk trash. Geesh. Just kill yourself already.


Because she was one of the only females to ever get turned down at CAL. When you think about it, every post is funny because it is a glimpse into her continued bitterness over the rejection.

She is to ignorant to realize her own writings pre and post interview/rejection show it so clearly.
 
I always thought that GUM was strictly 737 and that the only other flying that touched NRT was the 777 out of the other bases. Cool stuff. Does the 75/6 go to any other cities out of GUM?

Is this really the most important thing you have to think about this weekend?

Congratulations, BTW.
 
Because she was one of the only females to ever get turned down at CAL. When you think about it, every post is funny because it is a glimpse into her continued bitterness over the rejection.

She is to ignorant to realize her own writings pre and post interview/rejection show it so clearly.

Indeed it is funny and overall extremely pathetic. It's also obvious that not only did she NOT get the job with her "dream" airliner, but she also doesnt have a Ding-Dong to keep her busy. I guess her batteries went out. Very sad.
 

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