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Frontier1

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Am I wrong or what? Paying thousands for a type to get a job. If you all would quit doing it the carriers would have no choice.

Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.
 
Frontier1 said:
Am I wrong or what? Paying thousands for a type to get a job. If you all would quit doing it the carriers would have no choice.


I think everyone should stop paying for written exams, too. After all, we don't even get to write anymore. All that money for multiple-choice computer tests?!?! It's a travesty, I say!


We'll show 'em!


:)
 
I have one answer..

Frontier1 said:
Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.

Truck drivers.

Think its a couple of thousand dollars for the CDL.
 
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News Flash! You don't have to pay for a 737 type if you already have one. If you currently work for Frontier, as your avatar suggests, you can do exactly what the Captain I flew with 2 weeks ago did. He was a Captain at Frontier before he came to Southwest. So upgrade to 737 Captain and let Frontier pay for it. Have you not figured this out yet?
 
ATA paid for mine. However I would have been just fine never flying the piece of crap, but thats for another post.
 
Frontier1 said:
Am I wrong or what? Paying thousands for a type to get a job. If you all would quit doing it the carriers would have no choice.

Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.


Who would they be paying $5000 too? Also, and I'll assume we're talking about SWA, could you clarify your "work for dirt" statement. You work for Frontier, right?
 
I am so glad you brought this up, nobody has ever discussed it here and I was really wondering what some of the opinions out there were. Sorry to hear you are so bitter, maybe you can interview again someday.
 
I don't get why these guys go on and on about this. No one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to get a 737 type.

We're not the only airline in the world. If you don't want to get a type, then don't apply to us. You won't hurt our feelings.
 
Frontier1 said:
Am I wrong or what? Paying thousands for a type to get a job. If you all would quit doing it the carriers would have no choice.

Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.

Good post and fortunately only one major airline requires this. You have many options out there, stay at Frontier and let them pay for your type once you upgrade. I see where you are coming from and I am in agreement with you, thankfully only one airline out there requires you to do this.

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Everything is PFT

Frontier1 said:
Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? .
I sat on an engineer chair for 10 yrs after paying over 60K. Everyone around me did too.
Frontier1 said:
Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.

What about trade schools. Should they be free?
What about dancing lessons?
What about piano lessons?
What about flying lessons? Flying is PFT unless you went through the military route.


Competition is fierce to interview at SWA. 4 year degree 2300 T PIC, clean record and I'll probably have a much longer wait. At least there are people like you who make it a little bit easier for folks like me, thank GOD!.
To be honest, why can't every other pilot think like you and refuse to get typed making me more competitive.
Do me a favor and please, spread the Gospel! Give you a pennie for every soul you convert...
 
Frontier,

Im not sure this will make you feel better but I didnt pay for my 737 type. In fact, the federal government did through a program called Workforce Investment Act. Yeah, thats right, your federal tax dollars at work!!!;)

Thanks for the support!!:) :) :)

Johnny
 
Then there are those of us who are not in the military, no va benefits and then get told by your state official, " the state does not want to be responsible for training terrorists, so no money for flight training, but we can train you to set cement for the brick layers" maybe I should have done that! If you want to play you gotta pay, I guess.
 
PFT ? SWA started asking for a 737 type back in the 70's.This cut the fail rate down to almost zero.At that time a guy that failed out of training was a big cost that they wanted to elminate.Remember they knew what everything cost down to the penny when they started.Thats how they got where they are today.
 
Frontier1 said:
Am I wrong or what? Paying thousands for a type to get a job. If you all would quit doing it the carriers would have no choice.

Seriously, how many jobs do people pay to sit in a seat? Only PFT should be college. Maybe corporations should really look at this. I mean, if you want the corner office you gotta work for dirt and pay $5,000.

Sounds like youre getting a little tired of the Busch League.
 
After being jaded on flying pax for the last couple of years, I came to the conclusion that when I get competetive, I want to go the FDX/UPS route. After hearing all the things about SWA, now I want to go there more than I ever did before. Will start saving for the 737 type soon. Does this mean I'm bringing down the industry or lowering the bar? If so I'll see you at the bar. (Hopefully in DAL 'home')

Rook
 
bluefin said:
Then there are those of us who are not in the military, no va benefits and then get told by your state official, " the state does not want to be responsible for training terrorists, so no money for flight training, but we can train you to set cement for the brick layers" maybe I should have done that! If you want to play you gotta pay, I guess.


That's funny bluefin, walk your ass into a recruiters office and your problem is solved.

Semper Fi
USMC
 

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