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big_al said:
a racist who gets his kicks insulting jews is a liberal now?
Are you saying that Ted Turner owner off CNN who donated 1 billion dollars to the democratic party is a conservative?
 
Originally Posted by bocefus
That black program did not explode in front of the witnesses nor was it subjected to public scrutiny. Hell, even today the hardware from that program is not as accessible as the TWA-800 wreckage.



That's not what you said. You said that a secret could not be kept, and that two people knowing about it was one too many. So how many people knew that the F-117 was in squadron service for over 10 years? How many pilots, crew chiefs, mechanics, tower controllers, etc? Somehow I bet it was more than 2.

And as far as public scrutiny, why were all the eyewitness reports from former military pilots ignored? Yes I will certain;y agree that most "eyewitnesses" are worthless, but a professional pilot, and a former military one at that, makes a pretty good witness for an aircraft explosion.

Umm really? I said that? When? I didn't say a secret could not be kept, but I will say that our government cannot keep a secret. You are correct about one thing though, most eyewitnesses are worthless.
 
Thanks for remembering all those we lost 10 years ago. I did see the tv special and it was informative. When I very first saw this tragedy as it was unfolding on tv, my heart, was like, omg it was shot down. Sometimes, for years I just thought that might have happened. The program special on tv the other day pointed some things that may be true. It was very interesting and a mechanical could be to blame and that was the conclusion.

Even more scarier (although) air travel is considered safe, is the fact that this could happen again. Boeing refused comment on this tv program. But did issue statements about integrity and goal safety of aircraft. Regardless, accidents do happen. Remember some people tampered with evidence and did their own book, and came to their own possible conclusions, and although arrested did not serve time in jail, but tried to come up with some theories.

This will always be a perplexing subject, maybe we should let it go and just remember all aboard the plane.
 
bocefus said:
Umm really? I said that? When? I didn't say a secret could not be kept, but I will say that our government cannot keep a secret. You are correct about one thing though, most eyewitnesses are worthless.

So, the military isn't officially part of the government? What about congress? What about the president? Do you really think that during those first 10 years that the F-117 was in service that NO members of congress knew that it existed, or that the president didn't know that it existed?
 
Quit being anal about this. Do you really think that comparing a supposed "cover-up" of an event that occurred in front of witnesses, was investigated to death by the most highly recognized civil aviation accident investigative organization, in addition to concurrent criminal investigations by multiple agencies to maintaining integrity of the F-117 secrecy is relevant? Oh, did I forget to mention that all recovered evidence in the supposed "coverup" is available to the public?
 
bocefus said:
Quit being anal about this. Do you really think that comparing a supposed "cover-up" of an event that occurred in front of witnesses, was investigated to death by the most highly recognized civil aviation accident investigative organization, in addition to concurrent criminal investigations by multiple agencies to maintaining integrity of the F-117 secrecy is relevant? Oh, did I forget to mention that all recovered evidence in the supposed "coverup" is available to the public?

I'm not being anal. I am merely stating that if something other than a mechanical failure happened the secret could indeed be kept. The F-117 is just one example of that. Have you ever heard the saying that one of the best ways to keep a secret is to put it out in the open?
 
Yeah, now that you mention it, it makes sense. I mean, the Trilateral commision, Bilderbergers, Skull and Bones, the whole thing.
 
atrdriver said:
I'm not being anal. I am merely stating that if something other than a mechanical failure happened the secret could indeed be kept. The F-117 is just one example of that. Have you ever heard the saying that one of the best ways to keep a secret is to put it out in the open?

I think that it depends on what the "other than mechanical failure" was. If it was a missile launched off a US Navy ship, no ********************ing way could that be kept undercover. If it was something that didn't really make the govt look bad, it could maybe be kept secret. The question is why would it?
 
The reconstructed wreckage is available to the public, including conspiracy theorists and NO, none, nada, 0, zip, credible evidence has been presented to support a missile strike. That pretty much settles it for me. Of course I know the guvment might be wantin to hide that info from me. I wunder why?
 
big_al said:
Im sure you have tons of evidence to prove your theory about CNN, right? Because we all know they were so light on Clintons sexual escapades


Theory and experience are two different things. My point is based on the latter.

Not going to hijack this further.


AF :cool:
 

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