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Flying Illini

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Was just reading this months issue of AOPA Pilot and read the article about the rule that allows the TSA/FAA to suspend and/or revoke a pilots license based on the suspicion that said pilot is a "security threat." Apparently due process is nowhere to be found with this new rule as it seems that the appeals process goes before the TSA (the same people who had your license yanked to begin with). I have heard about this new rule before and it bothered me just as much then as now. So now the TSA can DESTROY a pilot's flying career (and probably his or her chance at any other job) just because they THOUGHT a pilot was a terrorist threat. Another thing that bothers me is that they don't have to reveal the information that they used to make this assumption. Is this legal? Should this happen to a pilot (an innocent pilot) could they fight it in the legal system? How can someone's career be over just b/c someone suspects you of being a threat yet you cannot defend yourself b/c you don't know what you have been accused of? I hope that this rule never effects any innocent pilots but if it does, do you just have to lay down and take it?
 
I think you're going to see this challanged by every pilot group out there, as well as civil liberties organizations, et al. However, don't expect sweeping changes soon. It would be nice, but don't expect it.
 
TSA

I don't know about everyone else's union,but ours(Southwest) has already responded,voicing our utter displeasure with this outright abuse of power.If they get away with this one,the term "slippery slope" will be a gross understatement.
 
I think George Orwell's book "1984" is becoming a reality. Remember the "Thought Police?"

Our country is becoming more and more ridiculous.


Read this article:
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FEATURE-Language police bar 'old,' 'blind' in US textbooks

By Arthur Spiegelman

LOS ANGELES, May 29 (Reuters) - Oh heck: Hell hath no place in American primary and high school textbooks.

But then again you can't find anyone sailing a yacht or playing polo in the pages of an American textbook either. The texts also can't say someone has a boyish figure, or is a busboy, or is blind, or suffers a birth defect, or is a biddy, or the best man for the job, a babe, a bookworm, or even a barbarian.

All these words are banned from U.S. textbooks on the grounds that they are either elitist (polo, yacht) sexist (babe, boyish figure), offensive (blind, bookworm) ageist (biddy) or just too strong (hell, which is replaced with darn or heck). God is also a banned word because he or she is too religious.

To get the full 500-word list of what is banned and why, consult "The Language Police," a new book by New York University professor of education Dianne Ravitch, a former education official in President George H.W. Bush's administration and a consultant to the Clinton administration.

She says she stumbled on her discovery of what's allowed and what's not by accident because publishers insist that they do not impose censorship on their history and English textbook authors but merely apply rules of sensitivity -- which have expanded mightily since first introduced in the 1970s to weed out gender and racial bias.

Ravitch's book is taking people by surprise the same way that Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" did in the 1960s in exposing the effects of pesticides.

THE OLDER PERSON AND WATER

Ravitch says a lot of people are having fun finding new titles for Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea" which presents problems with every word except "and" and "the." Ravitch said old is ageist, man is sexist and sea can't be used in case a student lives inland and doesn't grasp the concept of a large body of water.

But some people say the phenomenon of sanitising words and thought is not isolated to textbook publishers seeking not to offend anyone so that sales can be as wide as possible.

The New York Times recently reported that National Institute of Health researchers on AIDS are not only avoiding using words like gay and homosexuals in e-mails so as not to offend conservatives in the Bush administration, they are also inventing code words.

Times journalist Erica Goode reported that one researcher was told to "cleanse" the abstract of his grant proposal of words like gay, homosexual and transgender even though his research was on HIV in gay men.

Nor is the government the only source of constraint or censorship in the watch-what-you-say business. Wal-Mart, the country's biggest retailer, recently banned racy men's magazines from its shelves although it continues to sell sexy underwear.

According to Ravitch both the right wing and the left wing get what they want in American textbooks, for example an emphasis on family values and equality among ethnic groups.

"Everyone gets their pet causes incorporated in textbooks. The history texts are reluctant to criticise any dictator unless they are long dead. And even then, there are exceptions like Mao is praised in one text for modernising China but his totalitarian rule is not mentioned," she said.

She was also unhappy to see photos in one text of Saudi women working as doctors and nurses because that implied that they had gender equality.

"You also can't say Mother Russia or Fatherland or brotherhood in texts and that's both silly, trivial and breathtaking. It is like George Orwell's 'Newspeak' come to life," she said in an interview, referring to the manipulation of language in "1984."

Ravitch said that textbook publishing is controlled by four main publishers and they aim to sell texts state by state, thus forcing them to dumb down the books and make the language as inoffensive as possible. "They don't want controversy and they don't want people screaming," she said.
 
This country is getting F-ing rediculous. People need to stop being such babies every time something offends them. JUST DEAL WITH IT! Everytime something is changed to make one group happy, another group gets mad...just where is this political corectness going to stop?!:mad: I know I am still young and am probably "soft" in my upbringing compared to some of you "old timers" but kids these days aren't even going to have spines they will be so soft! Seriously, these kids will be babied and shielded from the real world for so long that some may just drop dead their first day at college! Hey, since they don't keep score anymore in kid's sports what will happen when those kids are older? Will they change the way sports are played? Will the NFL, NBA, MSL stop keeping score as well? I know, probably not but you can see my point!
 
Recently there was a debate going on about textbooks in high schools in Texas. Apparently they want a bunch of changes to put the (racial) history of the state in a little bit better daylight. In other words, cover up what really happened. This has also been done with the history of the native americans.

Regarding the TSA thing, everybody can get you on that list, you just have a hard time getting yourself cleared up again.
I saw the movie 'Hitler, the rise of evil' on tv 2 weeks ago, slowly I see a lot of similarities showing up in our country. I had to renew my apartment lease. The only highlighted question was 'are you a US citizen yes/no'. Who the **** needs to know? The TSA can take your livelyhood away without process. Libraries need to keep track of what books you check out and what internetpages you log on to. Uncle sam listens to cellphone calls (radiowaves are public domain), and we already have a concentration camp (Guantanamo Bay, cuba) where people are being kept without process, just like a bunch of folks picked up after 9/11 and have disappeared in the justice system, and families have never heard from them again
 
My dad's favorite line to use is that Hitler was elected by the people of Germany. Actually he fraudulently stole the election. George Bush also stole the election and his team of Brown Shirts, including Ashcroft, Ridge, and Rumsfeld are taking away our civil liberties and our rights under the constitution one at a time. They always have an excuse that makes it sound like it will make America safer or some other nonsense.

I don't want a " safe " America where I have no freedom and no rights. The people of America need to wake up before the government has all the power and they have none.

Typhoonpilot
 

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