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TSA Now Blaming Eagle?

erj-145mech

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]TSA On Offensive After Damaging Aircraft[/FONT]


While the TSA stipulates that its inspector damaged sensitive external probes while assessing the security of nine American Eagle planes parked overnight at O'Hare, it contends that the inspector got into seven of the nine -- and that American is to blame. Toward that end, the TSA is opening an inquiry into "multiple security violations" by American Eagle. Forty American Eagle flights were delayed to allow mechanics time to determine if probes would still properly function following the inspector's "inspection." The inconvenience and loss of revenue may now be compounded by the TSA's continuing investigation that could theoretically fine the airline up to $175,000, according to the TSA, for leaving their aircraft vulnerable. The TSA said doors were left open on the aircraft and that this week's inspection was a follow-up to earlier inspections, which exposed the same vulnerability.


Regulations require that doors be closed while aircraft are unattended and that jet bridges be pulled away from the aircraft. Those jet bridges are operated using key codes that only airline and airport employees with valid ID are authorized to know. As yet, there's no indication that American was operating outside of security regulations or guidelines. The airline said in a statement it is "confident that it followed all proper security procedures for securing aircraft overnight," and that if they'd gone un-noticed the actions of the inspector "could have jeopardized the safety of our customers and crew."
 
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It is criminal for a government agency to try and blame their crimes on the victim. The TSA needs to be stopped.
 

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Eagle should turn around and charge the fool that thought an AOA vane was a pull up bar with the appropriate crime that applies. TSA has a success rate worse than Cletus catching the Duke's and they are climbing on airplanes trying to prove a point.

"To thy self be true."
 

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TSA complaint form

Fill it out and tell those boneheads what you really think of them.

https://contact.tsa.dhs.gov/DynaForm.aspx?FormID=10

Haha, the top of that page. "Your Safety Is Our Priority"

So they're ensuring our safety by breaking airplanes in a manner that could've caused a fatal accident. The best thing TSA can do for safety is stay away from anything to do with aviation.
 

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This would be a much different senario if one of Eagles RJ's plunged into Lake Michigan shortly after takeoff. How would they blame that on AMR?
 

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I dont think that a faulty TAT probe would cause an aircraft to crash into the lake.
 

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I dont think that a faulty TAT probe would cause an aircraft to crash into the lake.

A TAT. No it wouldn't. What about the PITOT's, the RVSM area, and who knows what those morons may have damaged. If a bad crash had occured, who's gonna get the heat? TSA or Eagle?
 

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]TSA On Offensive After Damaging Aircraft[/FONT]


While the TSA stipulates that its inspector damaged sensitive external probes while assessing the security of nine American Eagle planes parked overnight at O'Hare, it contends that the inspector got into seven of the nine -- and that American is to blame. Toward that end, the TSA is opening an inquiry into "multiple security violations" by American Eagle. Forty American Eagle flights were delayed to allow mechanics time to determine if probes would still properly function following the inspector's "inspection." The inconvenience and loss of revenue may now be compounded by the TSA's continuing investigation that could theoretically fine the airline up to $175,000, according to the TSA, for leaving their aircraft vulnerable. The TSA said doors were left open on the aircraft and that this week's inspection was a follow-up to earlier inspections, which exposed the same vulnerability.


Regulations require that doors be closed while aircraft are unattended and that jet bridges be pulled away from the aircraft. Those jet bridges are operated using key codes that only airline and airport employees with valid ID are authorized to know. As yet, there's no indication that American was operating outside of security regulations or guidelines. The airline said in a statement it is "confident that it followed all proper security procedures for securing aircraft overnight," and that if they'd gone un-noticed the actions of the inspector "could have jeopardized the safety of our customers and crew."

I just threw up after reading that.
 

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I've never flew an ERJ so don't know, but if it's possible, maybe it could become policy to leave ground power on the airplanes overnight and to keep all the probes heated - let's see him grab those probes then.
 

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What TSA is doing is nothing more of a "imaginary game" when they play Inspector Clusso and decide to send some TSA runt to try and break into the airplanes. That's where the game should have been over.
The TSA runt, should have walked up. Slapped the side of the airplane and said "I win". Because if you can slap the side of the airplane, you're doing two things. You're telling me if you have 3/4 of a brain cell you can pop the main cabin door. 2) That other ground security in the area is not keeping an watchful eye out for the evil do'ers. Why isn't TSA getting in trouble, because no other ground security were able to find this guy breaking into the airplanes.
Hell, if I were on the ramp and saw this guy climbing the sides of the planes with the probes and tubes, I would whoop him until the 5.0 came.
Back on track...He went way too far, he broke airplanes and therefore TSA should be forking out the cash for what they did wrong.
When my son breaks a nieghbors window while playing baseball, I have to pay for it....just like all parents do.
TSA should "man up" as much as they can.
 
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I've never flew an ERJ so don't know, but if it's possible, maybe it could become policy to leave ground power on the airplanes overnight and to keep all the probes heated - let's see him grab those probes then.
I bet if you were in the Flight Standards department and really bored, you could get that printed in the OPs manual as a form of security.
"In a test, we had one subject use the probes as a ladder. We believe that if these were hot to the touch, the subject will have flash backs of the deep frier at McDonalds for the rest of his drug dealing life"
 

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I've never flew an ERJ so don't know, but if it's possible, maybe it could become policy to leave ground power on the airplanes overnight and to keep all the probes heated - let's see him grab those probes then.
Not possible, TAT probes heated when N2 is above 56.4 percent, and pitot tubes are heated when the engines are running.
 

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I just can't believe these "inspectors" are allowed to nose around (trespass?) on private property, damage more private property and then threaten to fine the owners because they were able to do it. Someone from TSA can bypass or pass through all sorts of security that the general public would have to get past before getting on board a parked airplane. TSA needs to pay for the damage their agents caused.
 

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Think about how important that TSA monkey probably thought he was when he was climbing onto those airplanes. He probably shined his brand new cop-style badge and starched his new blue uniform the night before, and told his beat-a$$ wife "someone's gotta do it honey, they need me out there." All the while, when hoisting himself onto that TAT probe that obviously wasn't a handle, thinking about how he's doing this nation a great service.

Were your parents proud when you got your job as a TSA "officer"? They weren't proud, dou**ebag. They were relieved that your GED dumba$$ could get a job.
 

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]FBI: TSA TAT Probe Climb Not a Criminal Act[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to the FBI, federal laws against tampering with aircraft do not apply to the bizarre situation that occurred at Chicago O’Hare Airport on August 19, when a zealous Transportation Security Administration (TSA) inspector decided to “test” the security of unoccupied American Eagle ERJs. After Eagle mechanics saw the TSA inspector trying to climb onto a jet bridge using the ERJs’ TAT probes as hand- and foot-holds, the airline delayed 40 flights and tested probes on nine airplanes for damage. “If not observed by vigilant Eagle employees in Chicago,” American Eagle noted, “the actions of this inspector would have been unknown and could have jeopardized the safety of our customers and crew.” According to a spokeswoman in the FBI’s Chicago office, “We are not investigating this matter. The damage was accidentally done by a TSA inspector. It was determined to be not intentional nor was it a criminal act in any way.” On August 21, American Eagle and the TSA issued a joint statement, assuring the public that the “TSA and American Eagle are working together to achieve the right security results and resolve any security gaps that have occurred.” [/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]FBI: TSA TAT Probe Climb Not a Criminal Act[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to the FBI, federal laws against tampering with aircraft do not apply to the bizarre situation that occurred at Chicago O’Hare Airport on August 19, when a zealous Transportation Security Administration (TSA) inspector decided to “test” the security of unoccupied American Eagle ERJs.How Do you test the security of parked airplanes? Are the airplanes supposed to stun/shock the TSA agent when he's climbing on them? If anything, they were testing the security of all airport ground personel. In this case, it worked. The mechanics saw the moron damaging 9 airplane. After Eagle mechanics saw the TSA inspector trying to climb onto a jet bridge using the ERJs’ TAT probes as hand- and foot-holds, the airline delayed 40 flights and tested probes on nine airplanes for damage. “If not observed by vigilant Eagle employees in Chicago,” American Eagle noted, “the actions of this inspector would have been unknown and could have jeopardized the safety of our customers and crew.” American Airlines mechanics 1 --TSA 0. According to a spokeswoman in the FBI’s Chicago office, “We are not investigating this matter. The damage was accidentally done by a TSA inspector. It was determined to be not intentional nor was it a criminal act in any way.” It's criminal how stupid this TSA agent is, along with all the other TSA agents. Had this agent had a clue about airplanes....he wouldn't have done what he did. But instead he decided to break into an airplane like he did the cars back in the ghetto. All the moron had to do was open the main cabin door. On August 21, American Eagle and the TSA issued a joint statement, assuring the public that the “TSA and American Eagle are working together to achieve the right security results and resolve any security gaps that have occurred.” [/FONT]
TSA Agent Should be dragged into the street and shot in the face. I bet you he's voting for Obama.
 

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Would it be criminal, or punishable if I tried doing the same thing?
Would I get to spend some quality time with the FBI?
I think so.

What we all, and I mean all, everyone working in the airline industry, should do, is apply with the TSA!
And where it says "why do you want to work here", we put something like: want to enjoy complete immunity from dangerous, wrong, and possibly criminal activity.
 
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