TSA losing 10 aircraft to Eagle.

[DoinTime]

Currently there is a push at Eagle to remove GoJets from the AA/AE jumpseat agreement. Maybe karma will prevail.

How did they ever get added in the first place?

 

[labbats]

I don't know. It may be that anyone on CASS is added automatically.

 

[CX880]

Jeff, Smartass, djsk you all ought to have your head examined thinking we got furloughed because of GJ. I'm pretty sure my fulough notice didn't say anything about GJ. Also it's kind of ironic that the place tha took "away" jobs is hiring every furloughed pilot out there and that the avrag GJ application has 4000 hours of 121 time. Please get your facts straigh about GJ, nobdy crossed any pickt line, they are union, have a contact and have equal or better CRJ rates.

 

[siucavflight]

Jeff, Smartass, djsk you all ought to have your head examined thinking we got furloughed because of GJ. I'm pretty sure my fulough notice didn't say anything about GJ. Also it's kind of ironic that the place tha took "away" jobs is hiring every furloughed pilot out there and that the avrag GJ application has 4000 hours of 121 time. Please get your facts straigh about GJ, nobdy crossed any pickt line, they are union, have a contact and have equal or better CRJ rates.

Thats kind of what I am thinking. People seem to use the S word to freely now a days. You may not like what they did to you by whipsawing you, but what do all of you guys at the regionals think that you are doing to all of the mainline guys that you fly for? Thats right you are being used to whipsaw all of them. TSA taking Eagles MIA flying was along the same lines, but Eagle is going to get their aircraft back so problem solved.
While I dont like ho jets they are by no means s#abs, not even close.

 

[rjacobs]

There are about 30ish guys at blowjets that I would consider scabs(the rest are just idiots who dont know what they are doing/did). They(the original 30 or so) stood at the rallies and cried foul of what TSA mgmt was doing and about 2 days after the NMB decision came out and the vote went down, they were wearing blowjet ID's and sitting behind blowjet desks. While it isnt technically crossing a picket line, how can you with any dignity cry foul at a line that was drawn and then go work for the company you were crying foul against? I dont get it and I guess never will.

 

[CX880]

There are about 30ish guys at blowjets that I would consider scabs(the rest are just idiots who dont know what they are doing/did). They(the original 30 or so) stood at the rallies and cried foul of what TSA mgmt was doing and about 2 days after the NMB decision came out and the vote went down, they were wearing blowjet ID's and sitting behind blowjet desks. While it isnt technically crossing a picket line, how can you with any dignity cry foul at a line that was drawn and then go work for the company you were crying foul against? I dont get it and I guess never will.

I understand being mad and calling the original 30ish A-Holes for going to GJ, as was their right by the way, contrary to the belief that they crossed some imaginary picket line. However making the blanket statement that they are scumbags, scabs and other things is totally unfounded. This thing is about pissed off TSA pilots who didn't play their cards right and trying to put a bad name on a legitimate place that's unionized and better than TSA. Now TSA if furloughing while Gojet is growing. It's time to move on.

 

[siucavflight]

There are about 30ish guys at blowjets that I would consider scabs(the rest are just idiots who dont know what they are doing/did). They(the original 30 or so) stood at the rallies and cried foul of what TSA mgmt was doing and about 2 days after the NMB decision came out and the vote went down, they were wearing blowjet ID's and sitting behind blowjet desks. While it isnt technically crossing a picket line, how can you with any dignity cry foul at a line that was drawn and then go work for the company you were crying foul against? I dont get it and I guess never will.

Do you know what a scab is?

 

[rjacobs]

Do you know what a scab is?

direct from the merriam webster dictionary:

3 a: a contemptible person b (1): a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2): a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3): a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4): one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

So there is more to being a scab than crossing a picket line.

 

[8sugarsugar]

TSA is a great bunch of guys...I'm pretty sure those 10 aircraft Eagle took back will get parked next year anyway. All Eagle did was prolong a furlough by getting TSA guys furloughed now.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

 

[CX880]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

I don't think anybody cares.

 

[cybourg10]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

You wouldn't have ever had a job if it weren't for Eagle giving you 10 planes in the first place. Planes/bases come and go, its part of the job. That is why you don't work for a crappy company......As a former TSA pilot I hope for the best for all those affected but the grass is greener everywhere else, this is a blessing in disguise.

 

[JSky26]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

SIU will always take you back B-Rad...lol... I remember you and I joking about "trans mistakes"


I kid, I kid....

You got any idea what's next?

 

[CX880]

.As a former TSA pilot I hope for the best for all those affected but the grass is greener everywhere else, this is a blessing in disguise.

If TSA is the worst you've had you have no idea. Sorry.

 

[TheRaven]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

nobody here at AE is rejoicing because your job goes bye bye. Nobody with a soul would ever rejoice for anyone being out of work, especially a fellow pilot as it could be any of us at any time.

Those planes were always AE aircraft which were leased to you guys.....it's a victory for us to get em back on the AE property.

 

[CX880]

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Those planes were always AE aircraft which were leased to you guys.....it's a victory for us to get em back on the AE property.

You mean AA.

 

[DGdaPilot]

My job goes bye bye....and Eagle guys rejoyce...

Hey B-man,
We're not rejoicing at your expense. But those are our airplanes.
It is what it is.
Good luck to you.

 

[bailey3083]

Jeff, Smartass, djsk you all ought to have your head examined thinking we got furloughed because of GJ. I'm pretty sure my fulough notice didn't say anything about GJ. Also it's kind of ironic that the place tha took "away" jobs is hiring every furloughed pilot out there and that the avrag GJ application has 4000 hours of 121 time. Please get your facts straigh about GJ, nobdy crossed any pickt line, they are union, have a contact and have equal or better CRJ rates.

The problem with GoJets is the way they came about and the fact they lowered the bar for everyone other regional to follow in the 70-90 seat market.
If I worked for a 50 seat regional still I would start looking at getting out of the airline world as life is going to suck for some time to come. At this point the 50 seater is just to expensive to operate.

 

[CX880]

The problem with GoJets is the way they came about and the fact they lowered the bar for everyone other regional to follow in the 70-90 seat market.
If I worked for a 50 seat regional still I would start looking at getting out of the airline world as life is going to suck for some time to come. At this point the 50 seater is just to expensive to operate.

I understand that a non-union start up, get's most of us pissed off. However they became union, got better pay/contract and are growing. I don't get how that lowered the bar for everyone. And by the way the standard was the same pre GJ so not sure if it matters anyways.

 

[relief tube]

how did this become a GJ sympathizing post? those guys are scum, plain and simple......period.....end of story.....

can't believe some dude a couple posts up called GJ a better place than TSA.... nope- Dignity, at least those at TSA have some.