TS A ramp checks

[jj21211]

Have any of youy also been getting TS A appearances at your destination? They do call to give you a bit of an advance notice, but we've had two recently. Hmmmmm...

 

[Pattern-Master]

Had it once at one of the smaller airports only served by regional airlines,they just kinda snooped around and asked stupid questions. Pretty much non event.

 

[StarHustler]

I got boarded by Dept. of Homeland Security agents last night, and it happened as well about 3 months earlier. Both times out of the same general aviation airport.

 

[dustrpilot]

I got boarded by Dept. of Homeland Security agents last night, and it happened as well about 3 months earlier. Both times out of the same general aviation airport.

Can they do that? As I don't operate part 121 anymore, my thoughts would be to tell them to pound sand.

 

[propsarebest]

It happened to us in LAX about a month ago.

 

[jj21211]

If you're 125 or 135, I think we'll be getting more attention. They can fine you for alot of stuff. If you are under PCSSP, make sure you have current (2010) PCSSP document available, 'cause they can fine you if you dont. They interviewed us for almost an hour after we put our plane to bed on the road last week.
Nice people, but some are super serious about this stuff.

 

[StarHustler]

Both times they were pretty cool, we are Part 135, the first time they asked to come aboard, the second they just came on board. I am pretty low key about that sort of thing, quite often you cause yourself more trouble by acting 'non-compliant' then just letting them do their thing. The first time they brought a Dope Dog, no big deal. They were spot checking lots of folks on the field that night. They delayed us about 10 minutes out bound. The second time, it was after we landed and were at US Customs, waiting for our turn to clear, no Dog that time. Truthfully, they seemed more interested in learning more about the plane than anything..

 

[StarHustler]

Yeah, we are exempt from the PCSSP and we do not fit the criteria below:

Part 121, 125 and 135 operators that charter aircraft with a maximum certificated takeoff weight greater than 45,500 kg (100,309.3 pounds), or with a passenger seating configuration of 61 or more, must ensure that all passengers and accessible baggage are screened prior to boarding the aircraft. Additionally, these operators must have a security program that establishes the required security components for private charter operations.

 

[Axel]

Can they do that? As I don't operate part 121 anymore, my thoughts would be to tell them to pound sand.

Don't kid yourself. Telling the Terrorist Police to pound sand in this day and age will get you sent to GULAG.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Both times they were pretty cool, we are Part 135, the first time they asked to come aboard, the second they just came on board. I am pretty low key about that sort of thing, quite often you cause yourself more trouble by acting 'non-compliant' then just letting them do their thing. The first time they brought a Dope Dog, no big deal. They were spot checking lots of folks on the field that night. They delayed us about 10 minutes out bound. The second time, it was after we landed and were at US Customs, waiting for our turn to clear, no Dog that time. Truthfully, they seemed more interested in learning more about the plane than anything..

Yeah, because marijuana is such a threat to national security.

 

[wannagoglobal]

Hi Guys,

LAX has been mentioned, what other airports have TSA or Homeland Security checks happened at?

Thanks!

 

[StarHustler]

OPF (Opa Locka, FL)

 

[wannagoglobal]

Thanks StarHustler.

Per our Ops Specs only vetted passengers and FAA with form 110a are allowed on Part 135 aircraft.

 

[HalinTexas]

Yeah, because marijuana is such a threat to national security.

It's a little dated, but: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2011/06/mexico-war-dead-update-figures-40000.html

We worry about the wrong things in this country. What's going on down there can, and most likely will, spill over into this country. If you live in a border state like I do, you hear about it, but the further away from the border the less is heard.

 

[100-1/2]

So, if tomorrow, the FAA 'adopts'(railroads) new regulation and issue new ops specs that blueberries garner the same access and acknowledgement as an FAA Badge...

...is anyone here going to see a constitutionality problem?

...how about when FAR91 Ops are 'boarded'?

The US Constitution protects free and unrestricted travel inter/intrastate. Congress enabled the FAA Act severely trouncing on Constitutional Rights of Aviators just because that travel occurs in an airplane? Now, a clear path is being paved to envelope DHS/TSA under that umbrella to infringe more deeply into aviators rights' than ever before?

If we don't stop the DHS/TSA here, next it will be our highways (as is already been engaged in Tennessee) and then our schools, ultimately our homes or as we walk a city street(as was the most difficult in 2011 in NYC than ever before with stop and frisk)?

On September 12, 2001, we feared attacks from outside our borders. Since January 2007, I have become more concerned and fearful of the damage done to us by our government and more-so than Terrorists could ever imagine they could inflict. Oh how they are reveling from their sandy caves and huts.

America's shining bright flame is nearing but an ember.
100-1/2

 

[waka]

It's a little dated, but: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2011/06/mexico-war-dead-update-figures-40000.html

We worry about the wrong things in this country. What's going on down there can, and most likely will, spill over into this country. If you live in a border state like I do, you hear about it, but the further away from the border the less is heard.

If marijuana were legalized in the US, the Mexican drug gangs would lose out as the best stuff is grown in the USA. If anything, the fact that MJ is illegal would causes any spillover and legalization would mitigate it.