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Trans States orders 100 Mitsubisi RJ's

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Seaknight1

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Hmmm looks like someone might be winning some flying! Oh but who will get to fly it; that is the million dollar question?:rolleyes:

TOKYO (AFP) – Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, the company developing Japan's first ever passenger jet, announced Friday that it had received an order for up to 100 planes from US carrier Trans States.
Mitsubishi said it had signed a letter of intent with Trans States Holdings for the big order, of which 50 are confirmed and the remainder options.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091002/bs_afp/japanaviationcompanymitsubishi
 
Jesus Harlold Christ on a pogo stick!

The world has completely gone mad.
 
easy bubba...

The first TSA MRJ is not scheduled to be delivered before 2014, that's quite far down the road. Has Uncle H. got a crystal ball that actually works? I want one too then!

The Mayas are right after all!
 
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This excerpt is from the UAL ALPA Pilot Contract scope section:

1-C-1-d Number of Block Hours of Feeder Flying
In each calendar year, the number of scheduled block
hours of Feeder Flying may not exceed the number of
scheduled block hours of Company Flying.

1-K-10 "Feeder Carrier" means a Domestic Air Carrier that,
when engaged in code sharing with the Company:

1-K-10-a Does not operate any aircraft that utilizes an
engine with an external propeller ("Turbo/Prop Aircraft")
other than Turbo/Prop Aircraft that are certificated for
seventy-eight (78) or fewer seats and have a maximum
permitted gross takeoff weight of less than seventy-five
thousand (75,000) pounds; and

1-K-10-b Does not operate any aircraft that utilizes a
turbine-driven engine without an external propeller ("Jet
Aircraft"), other than Small Jets

1-K-22 "Small Jets" means (a) Jet Aircraft that are
certificated in the United States of America for seventy (70)
or fewer seats and a maximum permitted gross takeoff weight
of less than eighty thousand (80,000) pounds
and (b) up to
eighteen (18) specific aircraft with certificated seating
capacity in excess of seventy (70) seats operated by Feeder
Carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp. ("AWAC"). These
eighteen aircraft are identified as the "AWAC Quota".
Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with
the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US,
N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW,
N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE,
N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR. AWAC may replace any
aircraft within the AWAC Quota with: (i) any other BAe-146 or
AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than
were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft,
or (ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating
capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a
maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United
States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds.

According to Mitsubishi's own website, the MRJ-70STD has a typical seating of 78 single-class and has a MTOW of 81,240lb, putting it more than a grand over the "small jets" definition of the UAL scope clause...and it only has about 900nm range!

The only carrier that could fly this aircraft for UAL, assuming the section above is still in force, would be Air Wisconsin...although I'm sure Hulas could pay for an AFM supplement reducing the airplane's capabilities to the aforementioned maximums.
 
According to Mitsubishi's own website, the MRJ-70STD has a typical seating of 78 single-class and has a MTOW of 81,240lb, putting it more than a grand over the "small jets" definition of the UAL scope clause...and it only has about 900nm range!

That weight is for a single class. I but its a two class cabin which would bring the weight down. besides MTOW is what the operator pays for.
 
How many people need to die before TSA realizes the Japenese don't know how to make airplanes. A jet with Spoilerons, I wonder how that will work at FL380?
 

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