Whats the deal with Trans States, they lowered their minimums to 250TT and 25ME, then there's PSA who has no minimums anymore. Is it because all the pilots are leaving because they hate the company? I heard it's because all the senior pilots for the majors are all the Vietnam era pilots and they are all reaching retirement age at the same time, and the airlines in China, India, etc are growing big time and hiring all our senior pilots and putting them over their. Sounds reasonable, but is it true? None of the other regionals are reducing their minimums that drastically. It makes me wonder about the quality of life at TSA & PSA. Thoughts, comments?
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Trans States minimums, PSA no minimums, whats going on.
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Theses airlines are having to cancel flights because there arent enough Captains and First Officers to cover them. US Airways mainline has started recalls and alot of the J4J Captains are leaving as well as Captains that heave been here 10 years. Alot of people are going to Southwest and Continental and some to Jet Blue. PSA has finally started upgrade classes and is beginning new hire classes of 12-15 for FO's. For a while, PSA was having problems with people failing out of training. There would be a class of 6 FO's and 4 would not pass the sim or IOE. Lowering the hiring mins is going to get FO's on site, as sh!tty as it may be that someone can get hired the day after they pass their COMM ME checkride, it's what is needed to get planes in the air.
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I am GLAD these companies are canceling flights and feeling the pain. That is what happens when you want to take advantage of the pilot groups. Don't pay them and see what happens. Word gets out that the dream job is no longer a dream job but rather a poorly paid, under insured and very impolite business.
I still like my job but dealing with screw scheduler who think they are god and all the other drama is just plain sad.
I know the facts, I have been here long enough to know how to run the race. I think the word is out and no kid in college wants to put up with this BS anymore.
So to the CEOs I say to "you made your beds and now enjoy sleeping in them!"
I still like my job but dealing with screw scheduler who think they are god and all the other drama is just plain sad.
I know the facts, I have been here long enough to know how to run the race. I think the word is out and no kid in college wants to put up with this BS anymore.
So to the CEOs I say to "you made your beds and now enjoy sleeping in them!"
you asked for it
I work for a Banner Tow Company somewhere in Florida. I came here in February because the boss told me I would be flying "at least" 100 hours a month. I spent a lot of money on a UHaul moving my family all the way from the west coast to Florida. In the last 3 months I have flown 10 hours. I got the ten hours because I paid $2500 for banner tow training to get my endorsement. My boss owns a very succesful generator sales and repair business. He makes 10 times the money with this business than he does with his banner business. He asked me when he hired me if I wouldn't mind working a few hours in his shop helping the mechanics repair, build and install generators to "supplement" my income. I told him sure, I don't mind hard work. Since February that is all I have been doing. Oh, and his Dad brought in his 30' boat the other day and the boss had me sand and paint the interior. He also had me in his yard the other day digging holes and planting trees. If I'm really lucky, I get to mow his lawn. No flying at all, just working for $6/hour changing oil filters, getting greasy, doing b!tch work at the shop. He just informed me he has got a couple big contracts coming up for some big generators to be built and installed and he's making over 600K on the deal. So he said he needs me on this job, and not to expect to fly for the next couple months. I was also informed I will still be making only $6/hr and if I didn't like it, I was replaceable. My rent is $760/month and I made $75 in March, and $208 in April (he screwed me, and shorted my check by $280). Luckily I have some great parents that help out with the rent these last couple months. This is the situation I am in.
I work for a Banner Tow Company somewhere in Florida. I came here in February because the boss told me I would be flying "at least" 100 hours a month. I spent a lot of money on a UHaul moving my family all the way from the west coast to Florida. In the last 3 months I have flown 10 hours. I got the ten hours because I paid $2500 for banner tow training to get my endorsement. My boss owns a very succesful generator sales and repair business. He makes 10 times the money with this business than he does with his banner business. He asked me when he hired me if I wouldn't mind working a few hours in his shop helping the mechanics repair, build and install generators to "supplement" my income. I told him sure, I don't mind hard work. Since February that is all I have been doing. Oh, and his Dad brought in his 30' boat the other day and the boss had me sand and paint the interior. He also had me in his yard the other day digging holes and planting trees. If I'm really lucky, I get to mow his lawn. No flying at all, just working for $6/hour changing oil filters, getting greasy, doing b!tch work at the shop. He just informed me he has got a couple big contracts coming up for some big generators to be built and installed and he's making over 600K on the deal. So he said he needs me on this job, and not to expect to fly for the next couple months. I was also informed I will still be making only $6/hr and if I didn't like it, I was replaceable. My rent is $760/month and I made $75 in March, and $208 in April (he screwed me, and shorted my check by $280). Luckily I have some great parents that help out with the rent these last couple months. This is the situation I am in.
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Are you flying in PIE? There was a crooked banner guy there in 2004, looking to pick up unwitting saps willing to pay for "training," where pilots essentially earn back the money they fronted. This particular operator had a fatal in '01. I'm sorry that you're getting screwed by this guy, and if it's the same guy that I am referring to my advice is this, LEAVE NOW.
No, not PIE, I heard of that guy though. But I am trying to leave! LOL
dcramer16. I contacted that same guy about a year ago. He told me the same stuff. i talk to some people around daytona and they told me exactly what he does. Asks you to pay for a banner tow rating (which there is no such thing) and fly you butt off after that. Everyone i talked to said he was a crook and to avoid him. I wish i could of got to you first, and worn you about him. Sorry he screwed you. Get out as fast as you can.
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Jesus, this is like dejavu...
I had a similar situation, although not quite as bad. Worked for some crook in ATL that promised a buttload of banner flying.
Ended up doing all the setups while he was the one that actually towed. I think I logged an hour or two within a month and a half...that was long enough of being strung around by that lying a s shole.
I had a similar situation, although not quite as bad. Worked for some crook in ATL that promised a buttload of banner flying.
Ended up doing all the setups while he was the one that actually towed. I think I logged an hour or two within a month and a half...that was long enough of being strung around by that lying a s shole.
I don't want to name names but you might be on the right track. I'm trying to GTFO!
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BoilerUP
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Same thing is going down at TSA. Last I heard, all summer upgrade classes were being cancelled due lack of FO's. Sounds like ti is getting ugly out there ecspecially for those companies that demonstrated bad faith with their employees in the past.
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