Trans States fire in cockpit today

[Superpilot92]

I was taking off out of SDF today as TSA was landing after having a fire in the cockpit. They landed safely and evacuated, good job guys. I am just curious what was on fire, anyone know the story?

 

[NWaviator]

WOW. A fire in flight that is my worst nightmare. Does anypoe know what type of plane it was. I am glad that everyone got out ok.

 

[ultrarunner]

I am just curious what was on fire....

Prly the contract!

 

[Parrot_Head_Fly]

just the

Just the other day a trans states J41 landed in Joplin MO with only one spinning. Saw the plane, looks like the crew did a d@mn fine job.

 

[Shrek]

WOW. A fire in flight that is my worst nightmare. Does anypoe know what type of plane it was. I am glad that everyone got out ok.

95% EMB fleet .....going to all 145 fleet by the end of summer.

Let me work on this and I will find out.......news to me.....if it happened I will dig it up.

SDF by the way is a jet route....

 

[waterski]

Ground check OK. could not duplicate.

 

[flydoc]

Mx: "Did you write it up yet? No? Well, try pulling the FADEC CB's and see if that fixes it...."

 

[Superpilot92]

it was a 145, they evacuated once off the runway. Said it was a fire in the cockpit that they put out but still had smoke in the cockpit.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Whistling and Flaming Sh*tcan of Death

WhiFSCoD

What kind of fire?????

 

[GravityHater]

What kind of fire?????

I heard it was an oxygen fire.
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.You know me, nothing like a poor joke referencing some other Thread of Flames!!

 

[ATTCS]

somebody burning the LOA from last year??????

 

[Superpilot92]

Talked to the crew it was something about the windshield heat catching on fire.

 

[wheels1478]

I heard they set the jumpseating ho jet FO on fire

 

[mcjohn]

Doh!!!!

 

[Shrek]

ALthough I have not talked to the crew.....that is what I heard as well. Basically an electrical fire.........wonder why the overheat controller did not prevent the windshield from burnin up....

Musta stank like a mutha..........

 

[iahawkeye]

The same thing happened at Expressjet last week. Winshield heat caused smoke in the cockpit. The bamboo must be burning.

 

[DiverDriver]

ExpressJet too? Wow, what is going on with the windshield heat?

Here's one from Pinaccle this month:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20060323X00337&key=1

 

[$$$4nothin]

Somebody obviously got a lighter past TSA.

 

[Geronimo4497]

Do you guys test and then leave the windshield heats/probe heats on during taxi? Just curious.

 

[Superpilot92]

its part of our policy now to leave the windshield heat on only on the XRs the whole flight. Our windshields where making some kind of clicking noise on takeoff and the new policy is to leave it on. i didnt know we had the same thing happen here at xjet. Hopefully they figure out what the problem is so it doesnt happen anymore.

 

[FlightTraker]

I was in the jumpseat of a CHQ flight 2 years ago on a 145 from PIT-MKE and the same thing happened to us(FO windshield heat). Ended up diverting to CLE.




FlightTraker

 

[LegacyDriver]

its part of our policy now to leave the windshield heat on only on the XRs the whole flight. Our windshields where making some kind of clicking noise on takeoff and the new policy is to leave it on. i didnt know we had the same thing happen here at xjet. Hopefully they figure out what the problem is so it doesnt happen anymore.

Clicking is normal on the windshield heat. It is cycling between the modes because it is warming up then turning off, then cooling down, then turning on. When the windshields reach 45 degrees C on the older 145s they automatically turn themselves off. Once they cool down to 40 degrees C they come on again. The clicking you are hearing is the normal cycle. It isn't as noticeable in winter as in warmer weather but it happens in the descent. (Embraer put out a service bulletin and a revision to the AOM calling for W/S heat only in the descent or when icing is encountered or expected. People were burning out the heating elements leaving them on all the time.)

The newer system does it, also. It modulates around 26 degrees C and bumps up to 43 degrees C when ice is detected. I don't recall the clicking on the older system, but I hear it all the time on the newer one. Normal but annoying as hell.

Next time you are on the ground flip up your electrical page and then press the w/s heat buttons in. You'll hear the click and see the spike on the electrical current draw. Turn them off again and you'll hear the click and see the load drop off. On the newer system I think you can trick it into HIGH HEAT mode by turning the Anti-Ice test knob... I think.

But then, I've never flown this type before. (Inside joke.)

 

[Superpilot92]

Clicking is normal on the windshield heat. It is cycling between the modes because it is warming up then turning off, then cooling down, then turning on. When the windshields reach 45 degrees C on the older 145s they automatically turn themselves off. Once they cool down to 40 degrees C they come on again. The clicking you are hearing is the normal cycle. It isn't as noticeable in winter as in warmer weather but it happens in the descent. (Embraer put out a service bulletin and a revision to the AOM calling for W/S heat only in the descent or when icing is encountered or expected. People were burning out the heating elements leaving them on all the time.)

The newer system does it, also. It modulates around 26 degrees C and bumps up to 43 degrees C when ice is detected. I don't recall the clicking on the older system, but I hear it all the time on the newer one. Normal but annoying as hell.

Next time you are on the ground flip up your electrical page and then press the w/s heat buttons in. You'll hear the click and see the spike on the electrical current draw. Turn them off again and you'll hear the click and see the load drop off. On the newer system I think you can trick it into HIGH HEAT mode by turning the Anti-Ice test knob... I think.

But then, I've never flown this type before. (Inside joke.)

Good to know thanks, The company came back and just told us on the XRs only to leave it on.

 

[BigHangar]

Clicking is normal on the windshield heat. It is cycling between the modes because it is warming up then turning off, then cooling down, then turning on. When the windshields reach 45 degrees C on the older 145s they automatically turn themselves off. Once they cool down to 40 degrees C they come on again. The clicking you are hearing is the normal cycle. It isn't as noticeable in winter as in warmer weather but it happens in the descent. (Embraer put out a service bulletin and a revision to the AOM calling for W/S heat only in the descent or when icing is encountered or expected. People were burning out the heating elements leaving them on all the time.)

The newer system does it, also. It modulates around 26 degrees C and bumps up to 43 degrees C when ice is detected. I don't recall the clicking on the older system, but I hear it all the time on the newer one. Normal but annoying as hell.

Next time you are on the ground flip up your electrical page and then press the w/s heat buttons in. You'll hear the click and see the spike on the electrical current draw. Turn them off again and you'll hear the click and see the load drop off. On the newer system I think you can trick it into HIGH HEAT mode by turning the Anti-Ice test knob... I think.

But then, I've never flown this type before. (Inside joke.)

The only problem is that this clicking was occurring when the windshield heat wasn't turned on.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Hmmmm, so the clicking occurs with the windshield heat off... Thus the solution is to turn the windshield heat off.


There's some circular logic for you.


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[rjacobs]

Yea but as we all know about this wonderful airplane that button position really means nothing so the buttons could be out and lit and the system could still be working if the computer decides to do its PFM thing, or they could be in and dark and not working, or is that in and dark and working, out and dark and working, who knows. I push the buttons when they tell me or when the bell goes off.