Trannys' "capturing" captain seats

[jball2]

No it wasn't special E. He is nice enough to make up for where he lacks. This guy was different on several levels.

 

[FDJ2]

With the rather large vacancy bid about to close, will the Tranny's "capture" most of the left seats or will the Real Southwest FOs sitting on the fence for upgrade take them? More importantly, do you guys think there will be displacements?

Wouldn't that depend on a person's seniority number, preferences and bidding rights? Aren't all SWA pilots under one list and represented by one agent now? I would think they would be filled by pilots on the SWA seniority list, period.

 

[canyonblue]

Flew with a FAT that almost scared the crap out of me, and not in a bad way. He flew the plane like a 4 digit guy that has been here 40 years. I was the one who got the pucker factor as he made every approach look phenomenal. I don't care where you came from, either you can fly an airplane or you can't. And this FAT guy COULD, and flew the heck out of it. And the ironic thing was, he flew the 717 at AirTran. I would have thought he had decades of 737 experience.

 

[Quiet Flight]

Many of those senior in base easily make baseline CA pay. Some actually make more. The only downside to NOT upgrading (no matter where you came from), would be for a Long Term Disability event. In such case, you'd get baseline FO for the rest of your life if you couldn't come back.

This is not accurate. LTD at SWA is not based on seat, it's based on earnings. Capped at 12,500.

 

[DA50pilot]

Flew with a FAT that almost scared the crap out of me, and not in a bad way. He flew the plane like a 4 digit guy that has been here 40 years. I was the one who got the pucker factor as he made every approach look phenomenal. I don't care where you came from, either you can fly an airplane or you can't. And this FAT guy COULD, and flew the heck out of it. And the ironic thing was, he flew the 717 at AirTran. I would have thought he had decades of 737 experience.

Thank you for the kind words about me.... You didn't have to write it here.!!!

 

[slaquer5]

Flew with a FAT that almost scared the crap out of me, and not in a bad way. He flew the plane like a 4 digit guy that has been here 40 years. I was the one who got the pucker factor as he made every approach look phenomenal. I don't care where you came from, either you can fly an airplane or you can't. And this FAT guy COULD, and flew the heck out of it. And the ironic thing was, he flew the 717 at AirTran. I would have thought he had decades of 737 experience.

So he flew the the way he wanted to and disregarded the AOM/FOM and flew it at clacker ?


Then the icing on the cake, make sexual comments to the flight attendants that only he though was funny . ( The kind that you or I would get fired for, but he is friends with Collen)

I Kidd , I. Kidd.

 

[Newjetjockey]

In the latest vacancy award the most junior awarded ATL FO was senior to about 5 ATL Captains. Looks like I'm going to be commuting for quite a while. Wonderful.

 

[redflyer65]

This is not accurate. LTD at SWA is not based on seat, it's based on earnings. Capped at 12,500.

True. But 'most' FO's won't get the $12,500 with the earnings they make.

 

[ATLplt]

In the latest vacancy award the most junior awarded ATL FO was senior to about 5 ATL Captains. Looks like I'm going to be commuting for quite a while. Wonderful.

Right the with you, brother. If I get back by 2020 I'll be amazed.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

True. But 'most' FO's won't get the $12,500 with the earnings they make.

Jelly of the Month Club?

Do most guys sign up for a supplement, or is there a pilot funded LTD pool?

 

[SWA Bubba]

Jelly of the Month Club?

Do most guys sign up for a supplement, or is there a pilot funded LTD pool?

The company provides protection for Loss of License for half the number of years for which you have service, with a minimum of five years coverage. That's free, negotiated into the contract. After that, LTD kicks in until age 65, but that's an insurance you have to pay for. Both of them however, start at the six month point, so you need to have six months of sick leave to cover you first.

If you don't have six months of sick leave saved up, that's when the pilot-funded program comes into play. It's called Pilot Mutual Aid (PMA), and those with insufficient sick leave can get that, but it only pays $6k per month, tax free until the other programs kick in. You have to participate in the PMA program to partake, and I wanna say that right now, it's about $20 or so per month.

Then at the six month point, LOL/LTD kick in, and that's based strictly on earnings. It's capped at $12.5k per month. Taxable or not for LOL depends on your elections and payment of payroll tax on "imputed" income, and LTD insurance is always non-taxable.

Most guys sign up for both PMA and LTD (LOL is included in the contract). It's relatively cheap insurance to cover you if you can't hold a FAA Class I for some reason. With all the crap that could possibly happen to an airline pilot, it's almost a no-brainer.

Hope this helps.

Bubba

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Thanks Bubba, was curious how that 12,5 tied in.

 

[Ticker]

Right the with you, brother. If I get back by 2020 I'll be amazed.

Ditto.

 

[tankerhead]

ATL '88 will getcha there real quick.