Tranny flush bid

[Hose A. Jiminez]

717 CA
717 FO
737 FO

Has there been any talk out on line on what seniority will take what spots?

 

[shootr]

Gotta tell ya...we're wildly curious, too. We also kind of want to know where the 737's will go and where you guys live. I believe SWAPA knows but they have not told us.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

I am we. I have heard that SWAPA has been told of various possible plans. Nothing set in stone.

 

[scoreboardII]

so whats your take?

never mind i thought you were the alpa dude.

 

[wood pecker]

So far every 71 CA I fly with is bidding SW 737 to get the SW ID. The fear is a furlough out of seniority when GK decides to park the 717.

Might be good for 71 FO if this opens up lots of upgrade slots but I am sure there is some type of seat lock to save training costs.

What could SWAPA do to prevent mass exodus from 717? Maybe pay the same as 737 but that water is under bridge and evaoporated. It would be nice also in your future negotiations to help get 717 pay back since we will be part of the culture club by then.

Looking forward to taking the first offer in future negotiations. I think there will be 1700+ yes votes if we get to play by then.

 

[GuppyWN]

The 717 and 737 pay the same if you're WN......... or in 2015.

I was hoping the 717 would go senior since I can't imagine your top dogs commuting to OAK just to be a co pilot.

Gup

 

[Fubijaakr]

So far every 71 CA I fly with is bidding SW 737 to get the SW ID. The fear is a furlough out of seniority when GK decides to park the 717.

I'd say that fear will be realized sooner than later.

 

[ces152]

The top dogs wont have to commute to OAK they will go from senior AT CP to Senior SWA FO at almost the same pay. In 2015 they will bid back to 737 CP when your retirements kick in.

 

[shootr]

But they will bid SWA FO with current vacancy rules...just like a newhire. They can't bump anyone out of a base. They'll have to wait for a vacancy to get into their desired base if it's a static or shrinking one.

 

[ces152]

That is true but out 737 have to go some where and its not going to be ATL.

 

[j41driver]

They have to go somewhere...replacement for -300s and -500s.

 

[XR650R]

I have a hard time believing GK will dump the 717 before their leases are up. Every time I fly a -300 a little voice inside me is going "Oxygen masks/regulators..On/100%...Oxygen masks/regulators..On/100%...Oxygen masks/regulators..On/100%"
Not to be outdone by
"SPINDLE FAILURE
1. Autopilot (if engaged) .......................... Disengage
2. Maintain Control Of The Aircraft With All Available Flight Controls. If Roll Is Uncontrollable, Immediately Reduce Pitch / AOA And Increase Airspeed. Do Not Attempt To Maintain Altitude Until Control Is Recovered.
3. Thrust ...................................... Verify Symmetrical
4. Go-Around ................................ Initiate"

The point is, is that our -300's are very old and have their share of issues. It would be nice not to have all of our eggs in one basket..so to speak.

 

[ATLboeing]

The 717 and 737 pay the same if you're WN......... or in 2015.

I was hoping the 717 would go senior since I can't imagine your top dogs commuting to OAK just to be a co pilot.

Gup

Gup,
I think that's true for original SW guys (If for some reason one ends up on the 71...there's a couple of scenarios, I just can't recall). Maybe that's what you're referring to.
But for us, even as we transition over, for example 73 CA to 71 CA, the current 71 rates would still apply, only adjusted to show TFP instead of an hourly credit. Beginning on Jan 1, 2015 they snap up to 73 rates, if they're still around by then.
From what I've been told, even after the adjusted TFP rate takes over when we make the transition (which is a lower figure), the pilot would still earn more due to the extra goodies in your contract.
I think this is how it works on our side. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
See ya on the blue side of the fence.

 

[GuppyWN]

Shootr, if there are AT guys coming over, there HAVE to be vacancies at SW. As soon as an AT guy bids over, he goes where he can hold, and with SW +10-10 vacancies, the AT guy will indeed go from 71 cappy to senior 73 fo at his/her base of choice (if he/she chooses).

 

[Crash Pad]

717 CA
717 FO
737 FO

Has there been any talk out on line on what seniority will take what spots?

What if the 717 never sees SWA paint? Now figure out the bid.