To Usair/AWA Pilots

[FR8mastr]

All you have to do is contact Captain Bill Couette, VP-Administration, and he will be happy to assist you if you believe that your council is not complying with the Bylaws. That would be far more productive than crying like a little girl on an internet message board.

Gee if only the CLT pilots would have thought of that. Oh wait they did, and yet the meeting has still not happened. I am told they will be getting around to it though.

 

[Bad-Andy]

I am curious what plan B is when USAPA figures out the NIC will stand.

Or when the company tells them to go pound sand and won't negotiate a "cram-down" contract with them... I've just accepted that either way we are screwed and the loud, belligerent folks on both sides will never be quiet no matter who wins...

But, what do I care, if these fuel prices stay up I'll be furloughed soon... :bomb:

 

[Crzipilot]

In fact, certified letters were sent to the CLT reps requesting the recall be put on the agenda. There was even an email, or notice of such indicating the reps got that letter. The reps simply said, nope sorry, we aren't putting that on the agenda....and I believe the Qtrly meeting is about a month late. (not positive though) Either way, As the CLT reps are in the cradled arms of mother alpa, they are treated as though they have done no wrong. Instead of putting the recall on the agenda and seeing what occurs.

 

[PCL_128]

Got any proof that Captain Couette is ignoring your concerns? I highly doubt it.

 

[Crzipilot]

Sure there's lots of proof. Meetings callled that have been not called meetings. Strange, they turned to informational sessions. Emails to Couette regarding the status of the qtrly mandated meetings, as well as having the recall subject put onto the agenda.....This was all started back in December.

Certified letters sent, etc........and even a council letter put out....

On December 9th, 2007 the Council put out a Council letter with the following quote:
“We have received a letter from First Officer requesting that the recall of your elected representatives be placed on the agenda of our next LEC Meeting. We respect the right of our Council members to recall us at any time and will carry the process forward.”


I too am not based in CLT, but one would think, if according the bylaws, one must simply provide ample notice to their reps, as to the request of having an item added to the agenda, it shall be placed there. I don't recall anything in the bylaws stating the need to solicit National, though there has been constant dialogue with them. Hence, The agenda was published, no recall on the agenda, and the Capt rep stating it would not be put on there due to the agenda being closed....

Ok....ALPA at it's best..

 

[ferlo]

All you ALPA hounds....remember who was in charge of the AAA MEC when the pension was given away in the middle of the night without membership ratification?

Inquiring minds want to know.

A350

I'll tell you, it was the locally elected officials of AAA. Nothing at all to do with ALPA national. It was US Airways own pilots that handed that over. Why is it so hard to understand...ALPA IS the pilot group...not some black ops organization hidden in a bunker.

And history is repeating. It will be USAPA and their union busting tactics that bring on a whole new level of pain. Again, US Airways pilot self inflicting more wounds to themselves. Pathetic.

 

[BeCareful!]

Got any proof that Captain Couette is ignoring your concerns? I highly doubt it.

I've known Bill Couette since the 1990's.

He has failed to respond to three e mails from me. Yes, I think he is ignoring the issues surrounding the runaway AAA ALPA group.

 

[BeCareful!]

I'll tell you, it was the locally elected officials of AAA. Nothing at all to do with ALPA national. It was US Airways own pilots that handed that over. Why is it so hard to understand...ALPA IS the pilot group...not some black ops organization hidden in a bunker.

ferlo,

Why is so hard for you to understand that this ALPA group, the AAA GAG, has boarded a runaway freight train? Read crzipilot's post.....they refuse to put recall on the agenda. You and Wiskey Driver tout the great democratic ALPA and in our case it's simply BU!!$HIT.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE HAVING AN ELECTION!

And history is repeating. It will be USAPA and their union busting tactics that bring on a whole new level of pain. Again, US Airways pilot self inflicting more wounds to themselves. Pathetic.

I think labeling USAPA as union busters is pathetic. USAPA is doing the only thing they can to stop a corrupt, inbred group who lies out their @sses. USAPA is the only thing that is unifying on this property. I've never seen over 3000 US Air pilots agree on anything.....but I do now!

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Sure there's lots of proof. Meetings callled that have been not called meetings. Strange, they turned to informational sessions. Emails to Couette regarding the status of the qtrly mandated meetings, as well as having the recall subject put onto the agenda.....This was all started back in December.

Certified letters sent, etc........and even a council letter put out....

On December 9th, 2007 the Council put out a Council letter with the following quote:
“We have received a letter from First Officer requesting that the recall of your elected representatives be placed on the agenda of our next LEC Meeting. We respect the right of our Council members to recall us at any time and will carry the process forward.”


I too am not based in CLT, but one would think, if according the bylaws, one must simply provide ample notice to their reps, as to the request of having an item added to the agenda, it shall be placed there. I don't recall anything in the bylaws stating the need to solicit National, though there has been constant dialogue with them. Hence, The agenda was published, no recall on the agenda, and the Capt rep stating it would not be put on there due to the agenda being closed....

Ok....ALPA at it's best..

You know what, I like both Marshall and Lance but if they pulled that crap then they need to be removed! You see out here in the west, we don't play that game and in fact it's a right of passage to be placed on the agenda for recall!!

I realize that you ae tied of the same old same old but frankly you are completely responsible! This should have never ever gone this far!! Heads should have rolled years ago when your RC4 was doing dirt.

usapa will only serve to drive a divide so deep that the only recourse will be to fragment. Two groups that under no circumstances will ever come together.

WD.

 

[Sig]

usapa will only serve to drive a divide so deep that the only recourse will be to fragment. Two groups that under no circumstances will ever come together.

WD.

This is too easy. Violate the contract in a ginormous way after USAPA is on property, and watch their money go away realllllly fast.

What is their plan when that happens?

But that ain't legal, you say? Ok, let's go to court.
But... but... this grievance... Ok, here's the list, which arbiter ya want?

But... the money? Yes?

... and before the wheels leave the bandwagon, I don't know if management is that mean/silly/law flaunting. But what if?