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qmaster3

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Just want to say thanks, you guys do get it through our

(students) thick, stubborn, skulls.



While doing a touch and go today with my A&P buddy. Full power was applied, and I shot right up in the air, glanced at my airspeed, down to 60, at 50/ft off the ground. Anyway when I retracted the flaps she climbed like a champ. Thank god it was a cold day. I asked my buddy if he was scared. His reply “only when you said OH F^%%”



At 80/hrs this was the first test of abnormal real world flight conditions, and training paid off.



Hats off the to CFII’s
 
Qmaster....checklist checklist checklist...even on T&G's....Procedures are always the best way to avoid uh oh's...start now and always follow them:)
 
qmaster3 said:
While doing a touch and go today with my A&P buddy. Full power was applied, and I shot right up in the air, glanced at my airspeed, down to 60, at 50/ft off the ground. Anyway when I retracted the flaps she climbed like a champ. Thank god it was a cold day. I asked my buddy if he was scared. His reply “only when you said OH F^%%”

I thought I was the only one that ever did that.:)
Back when I was a student pilot with about 15 hours I did the same thing in a '61 172 on a solo flight doing a touch and go.
 
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The way I teach a touch and go is upon landing flaps up. The throttle does not go to full until the flaps are retracted. This procedure prevents the student from taking off with the flaps still extended. The other reason I teach this is because if the flaps were to retract unevenly, we would be finding this out on the ground as opposed to in the air. The airplane would roll if the flaps were split.
 
at my school we arnt allowed to do t & gos solo for that reason
 
Had a student do this with me not to long ago in a SP 172 at night on a short runway? We touched down and before I knew what happened he punched it and we went almost straight up. I grabbed the plane and lowered the nose retracted the flaps by that time we were towards the end of the runway. I had never been there before and didn’t know whether there were power lines or trees or anything out in front of me. I can honestly say I have never been that worried in an airplane before. All the way up to 1000 feet I was nervous and was just hoping that we didn’t hit anything. I think it was Rockdale airport just west of College Station Texas. Survived it and it was learned from. Never get relaxed with your students it’s usually your best student that will kill you because that’s when most instructors let their guard down. Fly safe.
 
KAFluvs2fly said:
at my school we arnt allowed to do t & gos solo for that reason

We have to be PVT's before we can do them alone. I told my CFII today at an Inst lesson. He's the airport "geezer", and the chief pilot. I only lost a few pounds off the behind from the arse chewing. I need those from time to time:)
 
I did that at about 55 hours ..... in an unfamiliar airport that was only 30ft wide and 1800ft long.... with a big slope.

Scared the shiat outa' me - I definitely learned from that one.


I didn't shoot straight up into the air, but i did gain a little altitude, retractred flaps, came back down on the runway, rolled along on only the left main for a while and went otherwise all over the place. But i made it :D

God was with me that day, my friends ;)
 

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