Thoughts on Interns

[Timebuilder]

I'll ammend my peviously quoted paragraph. "...they can more freely dictate wages and benefits during negotiations."

The rest is a matter of perspective.

I believe airlines have found that they can learn a ton about some one after working with them for an extended period of time and it is for that reason that they drop the mins.

I was with you until that point. They drop the mins to keep enough pilots in the pool that wages and benifts improve VERY slowly due to the number of willing participants. If they had trouble convincing more experienced pilots to sign on, then they'd have to raise compensation.

 

[Pilot877]

I would have to say that the vast majority of pilots were not in the intern program, so there really arent enough moles or sleeper-cells of interns in the system to sustain the conspiracy.

If someone who interns decides that they want to fight for lower wages, I might consider throwing my $0.99 cheeseburger at them......then again:

T2 McD's at ORD = life sustaining for a first year F/O


Mmmmmm.......cheeseburgers.........

Have a nice day, guys, I'm going down to FLL beach to chase skirts!

 

[ACWild]

I remember reading in Money magazine that Fidelity Investments interns were getting 45 to 80 grand a year. Now that's a great way to get into a business!
Of course, Jepp revision peons will have to do it for free as pilots are a cheap bunch. I hope we won't have to tip them too.

 

[PUflight]

I used to do the Jepp revisions for the chief pilot for $20 a month on my internship, and I was more than willing. Ahhh to be an intern again

 

[100LL... Again!]

Internships are fine, as long as they do not involve PFT.

AND - AND - as long as the standards for groundschool, sim and OE are in no way relaxed.

 

[slapstick]

Even if my internship won't get me anywhere, who cares. I had one of the best summers of my life as an intern with Delta.

 

[climbhappy]

interns

i think interns come into their first organizational experience eager, impressionable, amd willing to follow orders. their matriculation is all but assured from lengthy observation. It certainly serves the Hr depts the best in that the employees are indoctrinated and less willing to deviate from rules and regs.

they probably fit the training dept's ideal of standardization is the best manner.

if you've learned five other ways to do the same thing. it complicates matters. I reckon!

 

[PilotRon]

OK i understand that several airlines have had hiring of pilots with low time a normal 500 hrs. or so.

Ok, you have 500 hrs. and your F/O on a regional. How do you ever get enough PIC time to transfer over to PIC ???

Or do you just fly as a F/O forever?

 

[chperplt]

As long as you can meet the requirments of an ATP, the company you work for doesn't care how much of anything you have.

 

[bobbysamd]

ATP requirements

OK i understand that several airlines have had hiring of pilots with low time a normal 500 hrs. or so.

Ok, you have 500 hrs. and your F/O on a regional. How do you ever get enough PIC time to transfer over to PIC ???

Or do you just fly as a F/O forever?

To be PIC in Part 121 (airline) operations, you must hold an ATP certificate.

14 CFR 61.159 sets forth the aeronautical experience requirements for ATP eligibility. Take a look at the reg and your questions should be answered.

 

[RUhiring?]

OK i understand that several airlines have had hiring of pilots with low time a normal 500 hrs. or so.

Ok, you have 500 hrs. and your F/O on a regional. How do you ever get enough PIC time to transfer over to PIC ???

Or do you just fly as a F/O forever?

PilotRon.....

When I upgraded to B727 Captain, I had a total of 800 PIC.
799 hours SEL.
1 hour MEL (the MEL checkride)

I don't recall ever seeing a "minimum PIC" for upgrade.

 

[PilotRon]

My bad. What i was referring to was PIC requirements which would include ATP. And yes, i was just too lazy at the moment to look up the requirements for APT.

I stand corrected.

AND RUHiring? what a lucky guy, PIC of a B727 with 800 hrs PIC total. You should be proud of yourself, that is quite an accomplisment.

 

[RUhiring?]

yeah

PilotRon,

Sarcasm

I sense a lot of it.

 

[Riddle momma]

I interned during my senior year, and it was not easy!
Those were 3 months of hard work with no pay. It is definately a BIG sacrifice to make that you pray will payoff. In my case, it didn't. The regional affiliated with the airline I interned with is far from hiring. Plus, all I got was a guaranteed interview. I still have to do well in it. And, the record from my work as an intern will come out during the interview. So it turns out to be a 4 month interview when you think about it.

 

[kj6991]

I'm currently an intern at SkyWest in SLC. 98% of the pilots are totally cool with us being out here. occasionally you'll get a few that thinks we are "sneaking in", but we aren't. we have to meet mins and pass a very tough interview just like everyone else. plus, i didn't just magically show up here. i worked hard to get here and am paying my dues and giving it my best shot just like everyone else. i wouldn't trade my experience for the world, and would do it all over again if i had the chance.