This effing sucks!

[minitour]

man...I had no idea there'd be a 1" thick packet of revisions in this Jepp thing...

...the stuff you don't learn in PPL ground school

Okay, I had to vent, now I'm done.

-mini

 

[b82rez]

Uh yeah....I'm guessing that you wont get too much sympathy from people here for having to do one flippin' revision.

 

[Lead Sled]

Revisions??? What are revisions? Heck Mini, we don't do revisions. Get a Jeppview subscription and back it up with a cheap NOS subscription and neither will you. Well that's not quite true, but it only takes us 4 or 5 minutes to update the entire US, Canada, and Mexico. Well that's not quite true, I'm getting extremely lazy it only takes the guy I work with 4 or 5 minutes to update the entire US, Canada, and Mexico.

'Sled

 

[English]

Q service, if you don't care about killing trees.

 

[User546]

Your reeping the benefits of being a bonafide Instrument pilot!

You think your "eff'ing" mad now, you just wait until you actually get done snapping and unsnapping the ole binders for those 1" of revisions!

What I do with my personal revisions when I got them would be to sort them by state and not put them in the binder. Then if I was going somewhere new, I'd just flip thru that stack of state revisions, and see if there was an update approach I hadn't put in yet.

If there was one I'd put it in, if not, then I knew the one in the binder was current.

Typically about the time you get all your revisions put in your binders, you get another one of those pesky yellow envelopes in the mail!

 

[Lead Sled]

Q service, if you don't care about killing trees.

We went the Q-Service route for a couple of years. It was still too much work and it is probably responsible for 1/3 of the deforestation of the southern hemisphere. JeppView - print what you need. NOS Charts (or whatever they call them now) really suck but they're good enough to use if you have an enroute diversion. There is also another similiar option, I think it's called Sky Charts or something - they're basically wire bound NOS charts.

The nice thing about Jepp charts is that new contents are reasonably cheap so it's not worth the hours of effort to do the annual checklist.

'Sled

 

[EagleRJ]

Revisions = evil

I had a dream a few years ago where I just couldn't keep on top of the Jepp revisions. I was putting them in as fast as I could, but the nasty little yellow envelopes kept multiplying like the brooms in 'Fantasia'.
When we're all using our EFBs 20 years from now, we'll have some good stories to tell our young FOs.
"Spoiled kids! Back when I was your age..."

 

[minitour]

I spoke too soon...that wasn't so bad...most of them aren't due until the 12th and I just sorted them by binder/state so it should be a quick flippy swtichy...

I'm kinda p!$$ed that I didn't get a "revision page" in the front of my initial subscription and they missed a revised chart too...I suppose they're going to want me to pay extra postage to get those two sheets of paper too, right?

Oh well...

b82rez, not looking for sympathy because I know 100% I won't get any. Just needed to vent...but it really wasn't too bad.

Then again, I have a lot of spare time on my hands.

-mini

 

[Flechas]

I used to just buy the NOS when I was instructing, way cheaper and no revisions. Right now I do the same User does, I keep the last envelope in my flight bag, and for every destination I check to see if there's a new chart. Sometimes when we have a really long leg i go ahead and update the remaining ones, but I still hate it.

 

[Dash8]

feh, jepps sucks...
flimsy ass pages rip all the time,
i go thru paper assholes like nobody's business....

but thats what the company gives us....i wait till i have 3-5 revisions before i actually do them, its easier that way

 

[2000flyer]

man...I had no idea there'd be a 1" thick packet of revisions in this Jepp thing...

...the stuff you don't learn in PPL ground school

Okay, I had to vent, now I'm done.

-mini

Just wait until you get your first checklist!

 

[SIG600]

Another reason to use NOS/DOD plates.

 

[Bluto]

feh, jepps sucks...
flimsy ass pages rip all the time,
i go thru paper assholes like nobody's business....

I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but I am firmly convinced that Jepp uses that paper because first, it's cheap, secondly (and more importantly) because using a regular 3-ring $2.50 binder you buy at Office Depot will result in immediately torn plates. Using the $30 plastic binder from Jeppesen, however, manages to keep them safe. Very interesting...

 

[EagleRJ]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but I am firmly convinced that Jepp uses that paper because first, it's cheap, secondly (and more importantly) because using a regular 3-ring $2.50 binder you buy at Office Depot will result in immediately torn plates. Using the $30 plastic binder from Jeppesen, however, manages to keep them safe. Very interesting...

Alternative theory:
The paper Jeppesen uses is so thin so pilots' kitbags don't weigh 60 lbs. Some pilots have to carry the whole nation, or even multiple countries, so every fraction of a gram is critical. The reason Jepp binders have so many rings is to spread the load out and save the charts.

Lots of people use cheap binders to make trip kits. They just need to be careful putting charts in and out, or they need to add reinforcements to each chart.