Things to do in mormonland

[Flyingdutchman]

uncle rico,

Will you take a moment to respond to my comment on page 10? Shouldn't a non-profit organization be financially transparent to it's members, and other tax payers since they are claiming a tax exempt status?

It certainly seems to me if it's the "giving" that's an important part, it shouldn't matter where the giving is done.

Comments?

Lilah

Good point... Anyone? Where does all the cash go?

 

[Snakum]

Good point... Anyone? Where does all the cash go?

A private bank account in Peoria, IL where it is distributed to unwed midgets on Halloween.

God is powerful enough to talk to you directly if he want to!!!

But has he gone to Voice-over IP, yet?


You guys do realize, of course, that the universe and everything in it was created by a gnome named "Dave" who's holy text is 'Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas' and that when you die, you go to Cleveland?

Any argument to the contrary is pointless, and it pisses Dave off. And there's nothing worse than a pissed-off Holy Gnome.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Where have you been man? good too see you back!!

Uncle –

Seriously I would love for you to comeback and defend your believes. It sure makes for an interesting read (or you wouldn’t be reading this right now!)

There is nothing wrong with a good ole discussion as long as we don’t get to personal.

I’m sure you and I can survive a 4 day easily (what can I say, Im a great guy)

All I’m asking is to please do what you and I are supposed to be doing for a living anyway. Be a level-headed guy, consider all the options, consider their sources and let it sink in before you make up your mind!

 

[Midnight Flyer]

sorry..got to leave this conversation for the moment. "Big Love" on HBO just came on. Can't miss that.

You know, the mormon show with the dude who has like 4 wives..

 

[justthewife]

Midnight, Flying Dutchman, User, etc.

I'm not Mormon, I'm actually Jewish by birth, but in the early 1990s when religion came to the USSR like ants to a picnic, I had the chance to see and investigate every religion imaginable, all within a very short period of time. I found several things interesting about the LDS church. Much of the doctrine you have all discussed has bits of truth in it, but it is only partially true. The reason, I think, why you are not getting adequate responses or answers to your queries, is because the internet is not really the best place to have a serious discussion about something that to many is so important, and neither is the cockpit. You are not going to find the intellectual answers to doctrinal questions here, especially if all you are looking for is proof that you are "right" in your assertions.

As far as where the money goes, I think that is evident. There are buildings all over the world that are built and paid for by the church, missionaries in foreign countries that are able to go on missions because of the missionary fund who otherwise would not be able to afford it, humanitarian efforts, church publications, etc. There is a general accounting summary given during General Conference twice a year, and I don't think that their accounting is not a secret.

I find myself coming to the defense of the LDS church because of the work they did in Russia, especially when compared to the many other religions there at the time. Nearly every other religion, the Russian Orthodox Church, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the many of the born again churches all had specific "talking points" against the Mormons. I found this interesting, because in my experience, whenever something is warned against, it is either really, really bad, or there is something really, really good about it. So, I sought it out. I was impressed with the hope they brought to many in my country who had lost hope at the time. I was impressed with the emphasis on family and on Jesus Christ. I was also impressed with the desire of their members (although few in number at the time) to be better people and make the world a better place. I was also surprised at the amount of time their missionaries spent on service-related activities such as working in orphanages, teaching English, and doing physical labor, while missionaries of other churches were spending all their free time acting as tourists.

While I am not a Mormon, I have been amazed at the courage displayed by my friends in Russia who became Mormon. Many of them lost their jobs, were disowned by their families, and had to find a new circle of friends. It was not an easy choice, but they believed in their hearts that they had found truth, and so they acted on it. They inspire me, and maybe someday I will have their courage. The same is true for my friends in the US who are Mormon.

Anyway, for those of you that have made up your mind about the church, pro or con, good for you. But let the rest decide. There is nothing to gain by this ridiculous arguing, quoting scripture, and attempts at convincing those who are Mormon that they are wrong. It's childish, and it's making you look like schoolyard bullies.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

There is nothing to gain by this ridiculous arguing, quoting scripture, and attempts at convincing those who are Mormon that they are wrong. It's childish, and it's making you look like schoolyard bullies.

Thank you for your input. I've had some unpopular views on here myself in the past that I had to defend. You must remember that this is a discussion board. Just because I have an opinion and somebody else opposes it, does not mean I'm a bully or anything. I don't know how things are in Russia, but here in America we have freedom of speech and freedom to express our opinions. By writing your last post, you're exersizing your rights and I respect that. But remember, nobody is forcing you to read this thread.
If I'm involved with a thread on this board that causes my pantie$ to get hiked up, I simply stop reading and take my toys and play elsewhere.

 

[g159av8tor]

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This thread has now been viewed 4000 times.

I went to SLC last week, stayed at the Hilton City Center, had dinner at Spencers and got a free t-shirt from Million Air. I also found out that the blond that I had a crush on in college and used to be a CSR there is engaged and working as a nanny...really putting that BS degree to use.

Tailwinds...

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Say what you want about the LDS, but I would venture to say (from the few times I've been to SLC) that they have respect for most everyone. SLC has the cleanest downtown area of any city I have ever been to. I would be curious about what the crime rate is like in SLC too? Now, compare that with, say, downtown Atlanta, where no one has any respect for anything or anyone. Guess those LDS'er aren't so bad after all. At least I don't feel like I need to carry a gun with me everywhere I go when I am in SLC (ok, so I got lost one time on my way to Signature at Detroit Downtown and I've been scared ever since).

Now this Irish-Catholic is gonna relax and have another beer while the rest of you continue to duke it out.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

OH yea, I almost forgot. I am supposed to be pissed off about the Da Vinci Code too. Actually, I liked the book (havn't seen the movie yet). Shhhhh, don't tell anyone. Seriously though, if I am influenced by a stupid book that is admititly purely fiction then I don't have strong convictions about my faith.

OK, I gotta run....I have to meet my fellow Catholics at the AMC Theater in an hour to protest.

 

[temcgrew]

And I thought this was all put to rest! Who reads the second page anyway?

Let it go.......

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Yea, I got here late. Sorry.

 

[Lollie]

Liking to argue

Thank you for your input. I've had some unpopular views on here myself in the past that I had to defend. You must remember that this is a discussion board. Just because I have an opinion and somebody else opposes it, does not mean I'm a bully or anything. I don't know how things are in Russia, but here in America we have freedom of speech and freedom to express our opinions. By writing your last post, you're exersizing your rights and I respect that. But remember, nobody is forcing you to read this thread.
If I'm involved with a thread on this board that causes my pantie$ to get hiked up, I simply stop reading and take my toys and play elsewhere.

If it's what get's you guys off.