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[NJA Capt]

...if I remember correctly it required 2 (two) pilots on the type certificate.

Nope. Sorry, It is certificated for single pilot. Yes, even the D model.
On page 36 for the 1900D.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/56c6439b7704dd6d86257076004f798f/$FILE/A24CE.pdf

 

[Fozzy]

Nope. Sorry, It is certificated for single pilot. Yes, even the D model.
On page 36 for the 1900D.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/56c6439b7704dd6d86257076004f798f/$FILE/A24CE.pdf

Only if you have the single pilot sign off on your type. So two pilots are required for most BE1900 ops.

 

[KeroseneDream]

Only if you have the single pilot sign off on your type. So two pilots are required for most BE1900 ops.

Apparently my lack of explanation of the Beech 1900 has sidetracked this thread. So I will clarify.

The Beech 1900 is type certified as a single pilot aircraft. Many Cargo outfits operate it as such. There is no such thing as a "single-pilot signoff", only an "SIC required" restriction. Part 121 requires two pilots for passenger operations, thus most air carrier training programs are set up only to train two pilot crew operations. So when a type rating is issued under one of the training programs the "SIC required" limitation is placed on the ATP certificate. This has nothing to do with the type certification of the aircraft, only to do with items tested on a checkride. Another example of this training restriction is many 121 operaters place "Circle to land in VFR only" restrictions on a jet type rating on an applicants ATP certificate. This is not a restriction based on operating limitations of the aircraft, but of the training program.

I am not as familiar with the 135 passenger carrying regs as I am the 121. My understanding though, is that carraige of passengers requires either two pilots or an auto-pilot in lieu of the second pilot. Thus an aircraft carrying pax lacking an autopilot would require two pilots.

My original reply was intended mainly to make the point that what time can legally go in the book vs. what a company may actually view as quality time are two very different things. A subject that has been discusses at length in previous FlightInfo threads.

Sorry for the hijack and I hope I have not created any further confusion.

 

[Fozzy]

Sorry about the single pilot sign off wording. A bit of slang. I have BTDT with the mighty D in 121 land. Most of the IP's had the SIC required removed from their type at our upstate outfit. Just trying to make a point in not so many words. But I guess there are just to many legal types out there.
Mine says SIC required if anyone cares, I am not to be trusted alone in the D.
As for all the rest, what you said.

 

[Grizz]

Fozzy,

All you needed to do was spend a little time in cargoland. SIC required's got cleared in a nanosecond. I've done both 1900 and Metro as single pilot flying freight.

To the youngsters out there - take the 1900 any day. The Metro hasn't earned it's bad reputation for nothing.

 

[Fozzy]

Oh no I don't. I avoided that for a reason. Losing that SIC req did not seem to be a biggie for our IP's. A matter of convience for CommutAir to get planes around and do training. Now that was interesting. V1 cuts in the plane bla bla bla. I don't miss any of that crap. That is what the sim is for.
Anyways, I have become a sissy in my "old" age. Give me a second pilot and quality work rules. I want to get home at the end of the tour.

Howz CMH treating you? They going to let you out to the line soon???

 

[Grizz]

At the end of January, I return to the line.

CMH is not too bad for being CMH. I'm enjoying being the union rep at Bridgeway to help solve problems. Most times, I get to solve problems for pilots. Sometimes, I solve problems for NetJets.

I like that NetJet's management has finally realized that we can actually help them. I've also noticed a big change in attitude amongst the folks there - they realize that partnership with the pilots is the only way to go. Greg and I are there to help them focus on that aspect of the business.