The odd number atlantic buck..stingy captains it is more common than you thought

[2dumb2drive]

look what's going on at flops...and you are going to whine about this? wonder why people think that no matter what a pilot has and how easy his job is, he will just want to do less and be paid more. freaking idiots, I want my Atlantic buck, whahhhh

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

The FBO offer those incentives to get pilots to buy gas. Guess who makes the fuel purchase decesions. That owner gave that money to the Captain. There is no legal obligation to split it with you.

Wow, sounds like someone needs to get off their high horse. I was a Captain at my last three jobs and I never had this attitude. If the AFM says two pilots are required then quite simply it is not just the Captain's perks/money. Remember, you may be the PIC and have the final say so, but you are still part of a crew and in my opinion DO have the obligation to at least split perks/tips with your FOs. By the way, anybody ever noticed how many primadonnas refer to themselves as "Captains" and refer to their First Officers with the more diminutive term "co-pilot". Just another way of these guys making themselves feel superior. Thank goodness not all Captains are like this. Also guys, don't forget where you came from. You did not pop out of your mama with 4 stripes on your shoulder. You were all FO's at some point and might feel differently if you still were. Funny how quickly perspectives change.

 

[Ultra Grump]

wonder why people think that no matter what a pilot has and how easy his job is, he will just want to do less and be paid more.

So you want to work more and be paid less? You must be at Mesa.

 

[glasspilot]

Wow, sounds like someone needs to get off their high horse. I was a Captain at my last three jobs and I never had this attitude. If the AFM says two pilots are required then quite simply it is not just the Captain's perks/money. Remember, you may be the PIC and have the final say so, but you are still part of a crew and in my opinion DO have the obligation to at least split perks/tips with your FOs. By the way, anybody ever noticed how many primadonnas refer to themselves as "Captains" and refer to their First Officers with the more diminutive term "co-pilot". Just another way of these guys making themselves feel superior. Thank goodness not all Captains are like this. Also guys, don't forget where you came from. You did not pop out of your mama with 4 stripes on your shoulder. You were all FO's at some point and might feel differently if you still were. Funny how quickly perspectives change.

Nice job editing out all of my posts where I said I share the points. Saying any Captain who didn't was a jerk. Stating specifically that I'm not anti-sharing, I'm anti-whining over stupid stuff.

I'm really over this topic. Like someone else said, there are real problems out there. I'm off to find my "high horse" now. Fly Safe.

 

[Floyd94]

How 'bout splitting tips? You think these guys are splitting the tips "down the middle"? hmmm..

 

[Helmsalee]

The good one do and the others will probably never change.

 

[netjetwife]

This thread is discussing issues that deal with respect and fairness toward a fellow crew member. Comparing notes about CRM is not whining. It's helpful to learn customary practices at your company and in the industry at large. My husband splits everything evenly or gives the FO an extra share. He also buys dinner for his FO during the tour, just as Bailout said Captains often do. I'm glad to hear that's the norm at NJA. I knew about splitting the Atlantic bucks and tips, but didn't know it was common for Captains to buy a dinner for the FO. Nice gesture, well deserved.

For those complaining about the topic, I wonder why you're reading it then, much less posting... I'd also like to point out that NJ pilots are well aware of what has happened to the Options pilots. A fund has been set up for them and donations are showing up. Posting here doesn't mean that a pilot is unappreciative of what s/he has or is unsupportive of those facing a tough time. Thanks to those who donated to the NJASAP-FLOPS Solidarity Fund. I think the show of moral support will mean just as much as the money being sent to those who were fired for a bogus reason. NJW

 

[C425Driver]

The good one do and the others will probably never change.

Well said. I think the vast majority of the Captains out there split the rewards evenly and give the odd number to the FO's. Also, if I'm on an OT day I give all the rewards to my FO's. Unfortunately, the very few who don't play nice are the ones who stand out for being the selfish people that they are and drive threads like this.

 

[acaTerry]

PIC not allowed to operate the aircraft by himself? Not at my company

I think this is where the Captain Superiority Complex roots itself.

 

[Flex-ible]

I split the rewards evenly, or if there is an odd number, the odd goes to the FO. But I am married and all of my FO's are not. Even though I make more money it is completely taken up by supporting my wife and kids, the FO's have much more disposable income than I do.

I am an F/O with three kids - one in a $40,000 a year college. Use of the word "all" is often inappropriate.

I feel very comfortable with the relationship between captains and F/O's at our company. As you may know we at Flex don't get to order our meals as NJA does. I have met only one captain who chose first - and he explained that he had food allergies to deal with. If neither meal had anything he could not eat, I got the choice. That means more to me than the extra Atlantic buck.

P.S. I am happy with a split.