The nic is it!

[maru657]

Really interesting! I think there won't be a pilot group in the country who can ever afford to strike. Every time one group screws another, you wind up with another dis-affected group waiting to get even.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Just like what Air Tran did to SWA guys

 

[B-atch]

Question for those in the know: USAPA is no longer the US pilot's CBA. This is fact. How can the courts claim DFR from a NOW super-ceded CBA?
The 3 merger committees are west/east/AA pilots. How does an injunction play against an autonomous committee now represented by the APA? Not USAPA.
Could this lead to another declaratory judgement this time on behalf of the APA? The mandate is ambiguous at best.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

You single handedly ruined this site. What is wrong with you?

I also stopped a line of tanks from moving through Tiananmen Square; ate dinner with Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Reagan; and taught Tom Seaver how to throw a curveball.

 

[AnimalTale]

I also stopped a line of tanks from moving through Tiananmen Square; ate dinner with Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Reagan; and taught Tom Seaver how to throw a curveball.

Al Bundy? Go jag yourself off, freak. Too bad, with all those accomplishments you are still a jag off.

CYA

 

[Ocity]

Question for those in the know: USAPA is no longer the US pilot's CBA. This is fact. How can the courts claim DFR from a NOW super-ceded CBA?
The 3 merger committees are west/east/AA pilots. How does an injunction play against an autonomous committee now represented by the APA? Not USAPA.
Could this lead to another declaratory judgement this time on behalf of the APA? The mandate is ambiguous at best.

It's not that complicated. USAPA was found guilty of a DFR when they DID have the responsibility. The law allows their DFR after the fact. Their committee is USAPA as allowed by APA. APA inherited everything USAPA inherited from ALPA. Namely, the Nic. You won't be seeing the APA be as stupid as USAPA.

The order is that the East West list is Nicolau. Period. The East needed a legitimate reason to abandon it and they never had one. There is nothing wrong with the Nic. So it's now the list. Fighting a self funded fight on two fronts with a self funded merger committee is an egregious hardship that the 9th wanted to end for the West. Boy did they!

 

[Tejas-Jet]

yaaawwwnnnnn ! Whats on TV ?

 

[Carl S.]

What a fun weekend to start my annual month long July vacation, Tuesday Usapa is on the line for money in NC federal court and 14 individuals could be held accountable for some loose accounting at Usapa WWHQ. SLI fun on Monday closed door before the games begin. Thanks for 10h, you made my summer....

 

[Ex737Driver]

I also stopped a line of tanks from moving through Tiananmen Square; ate dinner with Nixon, Ford, Carter, and Reagan; and taught Tom Seaver how to throw a curveball.

Brian????Brian Williams?

 

[get2flyin]

Brian????Brian Williams?

Perfect response. You are awarded full points.

 

[livin'thesim]

Only three pages? C'mon flightinfo, this thread had 500+ posts written all over it.

I remember the good old days.

 

[cactusboy53]

Question for those in the know: USAPA is no longer the US pilot's CBA. This is fact. How can the courts claim DFR from a NOW super-ceded CBA?
The 3 merger committees are west/east/AA pilots. How does an injunction play against an autonomous committee now represented by the APA? Not USAPA.
Could this lead to another declaratory judgement this time on behalf of the APA? The mandate is ambiguous at best.

Just "spit-ballin'", BUT the appeal was for the DFR case in Judge Silver's court WHEN USAPA was the agent. 9th will hand down to Silver to REVERSE the ruling, AND consider court costs and possibly DAMAGES. How much is that? Further, Judge Conrad is considering what to do with USAPA & it's funds.

Oh, BTW....Not showing up for an arbitration that you agree to is NOT A PLAN. It's more like a "Hail Mary". You should read the last two days transcripts from the SLI panel.

 

[Green]

I don't think damages are going to be considered with the 9th. They just mentioned attorney fees which should be in the range of 100k. However the separate litigation in NC with Judge Conrad has the potential to award damages. It also names 14 USAPA officers personally. Hopefully those reps will be personally responsible for the millions of dues money that was misspent. It would be poetic justice if the USAPA braintrust was bankrupted for their actions of the last 8 years...

 

[cactusboy53]

I don't think damages are going to be considered with the 9th. They just mentioned attorney fees which should be in the range of 100k. However the separate litigation in NC with Judge Conrad has the potential to award damages. It also names 14 USAPA officers personally. Hopefully those reps will be personally responsible for the millions of dues money that was misspent. It would be poetic justice if the USAPA braintrust was bankrupted for their actions of the last 8 years...

But the case has been remanded to Judge Silver to "consider the West Pilots' claim for attorneys' fees". It does not specifically bar Judge Silver from looking at ALL expenditures for all litigation for DFR. It does not specifically bar Judge Silver from considering damages related to the now ripe DFR.

Further, Judge Conrad is crafting his order for the disgorgement of dues.

We'll see.

 

[Whine Lover]

S.t.f.u.