Interesting. You have no answer to......the east side numbers have shrunk, but yet we have had growth???? I'd like that to happen to my bank account.
yes 3 new 757's came to property, as 3 left the property. 190's have shown up. how many 737's are being returned???
The point was that you have realized exactly the same gain as if the airline were growing, irrespective of the numbers involved. You have realized upgrades, recalls, and movement across your entire seniority list that would not have happened absent this merger.
Read the last sentence carefully, because it's something you consistently fail to understand.
Your "attrition" is made possible only by this merger, and the consequent stagnation on the west.
Every new airframe that has come on to the certificate has been crewed by east pilots.
Some aircraft have left the east fleet, and some have left the west fleet, but every new one has goe to your side to fuel your "attrition" movement.
You can argue semantically about whether this constitutes "growth" or not, but the results are not disputable.
As the west side has shown in the past. When presented with facts, they resort down to name calling and whining.
Show me where I called you anything, or whined.
I presented an argument that refuted your assertion.
As my previous post stated, show me the facts on this turbo growth we have had?????
Read the above explanation.
You blame the stagnation on the East side, but maybe I could bring my crystal ball out and say, your deliveries would have never showed up, maybe some airplanes returned, and you would have furloughed.
The only trouble with your statement is that it's completely at odds with the facts.
Our deliveries were showing up, our list was moving, upgrades were occuring, and new pilots were being hired. No crystal ball needed to see that.
This career progression was real, tangible and actually occuring the day before the merger.
That has stopped, and you have been the beneficiary.
I don't know because it never went that far. Just as it never went as far as US liquidating. Would it have happened??? maybe, but it never went that far.
It didn't have to go that far, and you don't have to inject any futuristic, hypothetical scenarios to see that you are much better off today than you were then.
The day prior to this merger you were not recalling pilots, you were receiving no new airframes, and your list was, at best, stagnant.
Does that still hold true?
So what we have to work with are the facts as they are and as they have happened.
Yep, let's review those facts.
Fact-The day of the merger announcement, USAirways had a considerable furlough list, was taking delivery of no new airframes, and was seeing only negative seniority movement.
Fact- The day of the merger announcement, AWA was taking delivery of new aircraft, upgrading, and hiring. No pilots were furloughed, or were expected to be furloughed.
Fact-Since the merger, aircraft have departed the property on both the east and west sides.
Fact-Since the merger, every new airframe acquired has gone to the east.
Fact-Since the merger, the east has been able to recall every single furloughed pilot, upgrade hundreds, and realize movement throughout their seniority list.
Fact- Since the merger, the west has only lost aircraft, ceased upgrades, and stopped all hiring. Movement across the entire seniority list has ceased.
