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"Obviously the capts in SJU and LGA are listed because their base is closing,......"


And just how much has all of this base opening/closing scheme cost the company? Wasn't the original reason for opening LGA to cut down on expensive NYC hotel costs while running an out/back day trip operation as cheaply as possible? Did hotel costs suddenly go way down, or has yet another brilliant business model been newly developed? While we're on the subject, just how much has the opening/closing of ACY, MYR, MLB, CLE etc. etc. etc. cost over the years? Further, just how much has the opening/closing of stations like SFO, OAK etc. etc. etc. cost???? What geniuses inhabit Miramar.


I agree, I was just saying that the 242 number includes displacements and downgrades, not just straight up furloughs.
 
You had to know the handwriting was on the wall when Spirit started charging for friggn water and pretzels...they can go out of biz anytime and it would do us all alot more good than harm....
 
You had to know the handwriting was on the wall when Spirit started charging for friggn water and pretzels...they can go out of biz anytime and it would do us all alot more good than harm....

You sir have to do more research because you truly have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Well, the last time I sent my 16yo daughter to Michigan, she asked the FA for some water and was told she needed a credit card to get a water, so, I think I do know what I am talking about.
 
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Flying/easykiosk.html


Maybe the answer lies in the fact that one of NK's former senior executives is an alumni of easyJet, bringing his vast knowledge of European LCC's to NK. What's the easyJet business model you ask? Have a look for yourself, and your experience with charge for water, charge for the clear blue sky, will be illuminated. One can hardly pretend that this is an idea which has it's originating roots in Miramar.
 
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Well, according to the latest MEC update, nobody knows what are the reasons for this announcement.

Communication, communication.........
 
Well, the last time I sent my 16yo daughter to Michigan, she asked the FA for some water and was told she needed a credit card to get a water, so, I think I do know what I am talking about.


You're getting what you're paying for buddy. Your fault if you didn't do your homework.
 
You're getting what you're paying for buddy. Your fault if you didn't do your homework.

Maybe, my point is you can sell cheap tickets that don't cover your costs and try and make it up selling ancillary items like water and chips, but I guess we can see how that's working out for Spirit.....just another dirtbag airline to go in the history books of aviation.....
 
The contract says they have to give us 14 day notice before we are furloughed. So I guess I still have a job for 2 weeks. And I don't think the 14 day clock until we get our official notice in the mail.
Probably not going to get a notice in the mail. The company and the union will agree that today's notice will be sufficient.
 
Maybe, my point is you can sell cheap tickets that don't cover your costs and try and make it up selling ancillary items like water and chips, but I guess we can see how that's working out for Spirit.....just another dirtbag airline to go in the history books of aviation.....

Oh yes...and whoever you work for is the poster child for a role model...right?
 
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I got an idea Sgt....go to your management and see if they can change the paint scheme again, bet that will sell more tickets! Or, maybe they could put a credit card swiper by the door to the shi**er, maybe that would bring ya into the black....what a joke. Dude, face it, your management sucks, and no matter how you look at it, people hate being nickled and dimed. There's not an investment company in the world that would throw more cash at a fledgling airline, so a word to the wise.....start figuring out what you are going to do in life after Spirit...
 
You had to know the handwriting was on the wall when Spirit started charging for friggn water and pretzels...they can go out of biz anytime and it would do us all alot more good than harm....

So you're pissed because your brat couldn't buy a drink on Spirit. So, now you're hoping that we go down the tubes. Nice! Watch out for that Karma dude. Whatever company you're at, I bet it won't be you're last.
 
greenbay you seem to have some issues. first you are doggin frontier and now spirit. two airlines that probably shot you down in the interview because you are a disgrace to humanity, get a clue dirtbag. these are airlines with good employees who have families to feed. you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
Greenbayballs...let me tell you something. It trully is a disgrace knowing that butt-pimples like you exist in this industry. Your fellow pilots are facing layoffs and hardships with families to feed and all you do is come here and spit your worthless venom.
Shame on you and let karma bite you...cause it will.WATCH.
 
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First of all GBF,

How could you send your daughter anywhere without putting a $20 bill in her pocket.

Secondly, to support GBF....

Any airline that charges for water is a Sh&t operation. I can see charging for everything else....but water?....c'mon. Water is a basic survival need. Why don't you charge for using the bathroom....another basic survival need. When dehydration is the issue....give 'em the water for free!
 
I really can't believe that even if you have cash you cannot get a cup of water......Just give out the water for free.....I know, it's not the pilots.
 
Any airline that charges for water is a Sh&t operation. I can see charging for everything else....but water?....c'mon.


This is an obvious emulation of the RyanAir and easyJet business models which have proven to have worked OK in Europe. Ever notice that after MH joined NK from easyJet that Ben was quick to title NK a ULCC?
If you don't like the model, let the senior NK "executives" know. Heck, Ben is an absolute wizzard at e-mail, I'm sure he will get right back to you!
This is not the fault of the rank and file front line employees.
 

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