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[maxblast72]

Eff spirit... eff jblue and eff this industry in the US. Thanks to mesa and the rest for the race to the bottom. Oil is expensive.. this is true... but tickets don't need to be given away. It should be a criminal offense to run an airline with over 80% of the seats filled and still be operating in the red. Charge enough to cover costs and make a profit. WTF it's pretty simple people.

Sad part is we need several airlines to disappear or drastically cut some significant capacity to get the ticket price increases everyone needs to be profitable. It will be a game to see who can survive until that point.

 

[Mike man]

As much as I hate JO and his style running Mesa, they really didn't have anything to do with the industry catering to the bus ridding crowd.

If Spirit is truly failing it really takes zero thought as to why...blend piss poor customer service and people will stop riding, even in the small niche markets. People will pay more to be treated like a human being as opposed to cattle.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

like "can you please untie me or at least scratch my balls for me?"

Clickclick does dig the trannies.

 

[Sgt. Hartman]

Eff spirit... eff jblue and eff this industry in the US. Thanks to mesa and the rest for the race to the bottom. Oil is expensive.. this is true... but tickets don't need to be given away. It should be a criminal offense to run an airline with over 80% of the seats filled and still be operating in the red. Charge enough to cover costs and make a profit. WTF it's pretty simple people.

The race to the bottom began long before there were ever LCC's in the picture. And those who started it are the ones that folks seem to think are upholding the highest of standards.

 

[clickclickboom]

Clickclick does dig the trannies.

Okay I admit it.. But hey it takes one to know one.. The chef bites the pillow while we play naked twister

 

[troll565]

There are 71 pilots between LGA and SJU so that leaves 171 pilots left over...that is almost the entire FLL FO list. So I guess if we think about this it must be something like this...

70 SJU and LGA displaced back to FLL
120 furloughs (just round numbers)
50 downgrades

That is 240 pilots affected by this...

The company is required to list you, BY NAME, in the WARN Act whether you might be affected. Right now, it only goes up to about bidder #90 on the FLL FO side, plus ALL SJU and LGA pilots.


And no, Jet Blue is not buying us.

And AAL is pulling back big time in SJU, stopping FLL/TPA/MCO to SJU, FLL-KIN, etc.


Obviously the 240# is the absolute highest, I think when it's all over, you'll see about 40 furloughs with 15 downgrades. LGA will close but SJU will stay open, albeit reduced.

 

[Beetle007]

Why is this info not coming from the union? Shouldn't they attempt to provide the most accurate info to the membership?

Also, why did they say in their email that the company provided the "minimum required legal notice"? The company hasn't even issued notices yet?

The WARN act requires 60 days notice and our contract only requires 14 days notice. The WARN act only applies to furloughs of more than 50 people.

 

[troll565]

Why is this info not coming from the union? Shouldn't they attempt to provide the most accurate info to the membership?

Also, why did they say in their email that the company provided the "minimum required legal notice"? The company hasn't even issued notices yet?

The WARN act requires 60 days notice and our contract only requires 14 days notice. The WARN act only applies to furloughs of more than 50 people.

Don't you think Indigo would rather list WAY more people than might actually be affected? They can't add to that list without giving another 60 day notice, but they obviously don't have to furlough/displace/downgrade 40% of the pilots either.


If you're gonna furlough 240 pilots, just shut the doors and get it over with. If however, the bookings for Post-Labor Day don't support the number of flights you had during the summer, than there needs to be some readjustments. 5 flights a day in Sept/Oct to LGA with 100 people sucks; 4 flights a day with 130 does not.


Indigo gave a 60 day notice of base closings, not 14, btw.

 

[troll565]

Did the flight attendent MEC, get anything also? 242 pilots has to affect FA's also.

Closing of SJU, LGA and DTW.

 

[Beetle007]

The Flight attendant's union sent PDF copies of their WARN act letters to their membership (which include the names of employees affected).