The difference between Skywest and Mesa??

[ApocketA's_145]

i keep hearing from lots of people that Skywest is the next Mesa?! what are they doing thats soo bad? somebody fill me in?

 

[McNugget]

10 pages. easily

 

[kj6991]

well at SKW they haven't ran a new hire FA class the last few months. that's always a bummer

 

[WalterSobchak]

Hell...I'll predict 12 pages. The majority of which will be troll ramblings from Metro752.

 

[Erlanger]

well at SKW they haven't ran a new hire FA class the last few months. that's always a bummer

They just started a new hire F.A. class last week. One Upgrade and one new hire pilot class starts June 2.

 

[kj6991]

They just started a new hire F.A. class last week. One Upgrade and one new hire pilot class starts June 2.

nice. ship em' to ord

 

[ApocketA's_145]

10 pages. easily

a buddy of mine told me they are trying to buy xjt and destroy one of the best contracts in the industry and put thier pilots out on the street. Isnt that pretty ********************ty? im kinda pissed because now our whole industry can be affected now, they set the the bar for a good contract and now its gonna be destroyed... pretty low by skywest ill say. so thats why im hearing they are the next mesa as far as respect goes!

 

[joeyfly55]

Hell...I'll predict 12 pages. The majority of which will be troll ramblings from Metro752.

Awesome, its funny because its true!

 

[kj6991]

a buddy of mine told me they are trying to buy xjt and destroy one of the best contracts in the industry and put thier pilots out on the street. Isnt that pretty ********************ty? im kinda pissed because now our whole industry can be affected now, they set the the bar for a good contract and now its gonna be destroyed... pretty low by skywest ill say. so thats why im hearing they are the next mesa as far as respect goes!

yaaaaawn. exactly. by the way, tell me a little bit about your contract and work rules while we are on the subject if you don't mind?

 

[MJ42]

a buddy of mine told me they are trying to buy xjt and destroy one of the best contracts in the industrywrong, xjt MANAGEMENT is destroying the company. and put thier pilots out on the street.unfortunately...where do you think they'll be with or without SKW? Isnt that pretty ********************ty? im kinda pissed because now our whole industry can be affected nowagain unfortunately, It'll happen many, many more times during your career as past history has shown., they set the the bar for a good contract and now its gonna be destroyed... pretty low by XJT MANAGEMENT ill say. so thats why im hearing they are the next mesa as far as respect goes!

You may or may not agree with SKW management but XJT management (especially the branded flying)is responsible for this mess.

 

[Flip]

a buddy of mine told me they are trying to buy xjt and destroy one of the best contracts in the industry and put thier pilots out on the street. Isnt that pretty ********************ty? im kinda pissed because now our whole industry can be affected now, they set the the bar for a good contract and now its gonna be destroyed... pretty low by skywest ill say. so thats why im hearing they are the next mesa as far as respect goes!

Why don't you go and educate yourself, and stop flaming. You ask a question and then answer it yourself with stupid drivel, based on what your 'buddy' says, and make incorrect assumptions. What's wrong with the 'me me' generation today? And while you are at it, why don't you try and at least write properly so as not to show yourself up as challenged.

 

[Max Q]

 

[Nevets]

You may or may not agree with SKW management but XJT management (especially the branded flying)is responsible for this mess.

I think he is referring to the proposal SKW management has for the XJT pilots. XJT pilots nor XJT management asked SKW to try to buy them out.

 

[NachoMamma]

Were they every really different?

regional=regional

 

[MJ42]

I think he is referring to the proposal SKW management has for the XJT pilots. XJT pilots nor XJT management asked SKW to try to buy them out.

I understand that, but XJT is in it's current situation due to gross mismanagement. I don't know what the SKW proposal is(was) and am not saying I agree with their tactics, but do you think the branded flying will survive? Was it a good decision? I know hind sight is 20/20 but do you think these past decisions will result in future furloughs? Do you think CAL cares about XJT flying?

Again, not saying I agree with SKW management tactics. I feel especially sorry for the senior pilots at XJT who have fought for so much over the years only to see their company get driven into the ground. They have a lot to lose. I don't know the answer, however I do think there will be a lot of people hurt whatever the outcome.

 

[N813CA]

I do not like Skywest's contract/way of doing things but they are at least safe to fly on unlike Mesa.

 

[Nevets]

I understand that, but XJT is in it's current situation due to gross mismanagement. I don't know what the SKW proposal is(was) and am not saying I agree with their tactics, but do you think the branded flying will survive? Was it a good decision? I know hind sight is 20/20 but do you think these past decisions will result in future furloughs? Do you think CAL cares about XJT flying?

Again, not saying I agree with SKW management tactics. I feel especially sorry for the senior pilots at XJT who have fought for so much over the years only to see their company get driven into the ground. They have a lot to lose. I don't know the answer, however I do think there will be a lot of people hurt whatever the outcome.

What I'm saying is that all those questions you asked are irrelevant to the question at hand to the original poster. I'm not saying that I agree with the comparison because I don't but there could be a good argument made on how each have/could accelerate the "race to the bottom" if the the buyout is successful as the deal stands now.

 

[MJ42]

What I'm saying is that all those questions you asked are irrelevant to the question at hand to the original poster. I'm not saying that I agree with the comparison because I don't but there could be a good argument made on how each have/could accelerate the "race to the bottom" if the the buyout is successful as the deal stands now.

I think my response was to post #7. (Which, by the way, happens to be the original poster).

 

[hyperboy]

metha

Mesa is safe cause I fly there!

It may be bad but it's not that bad. We (the pilots) do OUR job and we do it well and safely. OJ does not call us up and ask us how we feel or what we would do.
People need to act educated and realize this!

Sure we want to go somewhere else. While I am here I do eveything to make our PAX happy and get there in ONE piece.

The most important thing to understand is Michigan sucks in football!

We need a college footbal forum on FI

 

[Soverytired]

Mesa is safe cause I fly there!

It may be bad but it's not that bad. We (the pilots) do OUR job and we do it well and safely. OJ does not call us up and ask us how we feel or what we would do.
People need to act educated and realize this!

Sure we want to go somewhere else. While I am here I do eveything to make our PAX happy and get there in ONE piece.

The most important thing to understand is Michigan sucks in football!

We need a college footbal forum on FI

Yes. It is that bad. Don't listen to the Mesa-bashers on fi . . . but listen to the 1000+ pilots who've left Mesa over the past 2-3 years.

If the "camping trips" are still going on, then Mesa isn't safe, it's a major accident waiting to happen.

Go somewhere else. ANYWHERE else. Especially now, since Mesa is on life support.

Do you have your apps out? Why not?